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    Quote Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk View Post
    Literally everything about this post is flat out wrong. Take a business class or something before you speak in absolutes about these kinds of things.
    I'll do ya one better.

    I own a business with payroll over one and a half million dollars a year. Been in the business ten years o.O took ownership three years before now. Just got our employees a $5/hour raise.

    But continue to inform me, kind sir, on how wrong I am about why the business exists, and what business you have enquiring about anyone else's profit margin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    lol worthy

    ...continue to inform me, kind sir, on how wrong I am about why the business exists, and what business you have enquiring about anyone else's profit margin.
    I'll just leave this here..........

    SEC mandated Annual Reports to Shareholders: http://www.inc.com/encyclopedia/annual-reports.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    I'll just leave this here..........

    SEC mandated Annual Reports to Shareholders: http://www.inc.com/encyclopedia/annual-reports.html
    And this leads you to conclude that you deserve a report from SQEX on how much money they're making on a particular item in their inventory? Are you, in fact, a shareholder?

    If you are, in fact, a shareholder, the next question is


    what the blue heck are you doing demanding a report ON A GAME FORUM?!

    Delusions of self-aggrandizement. Magnificent.

    EDIT:

    I have a theory. (o.O )

    I believe the two of you are actually socialists, believing profit is an inherent evil, and therefore feel an element of moral justification in your benighted demands for information that you have no legal standing asking for.

    O.o I think you feel justified inquiring about this because you believe that anyone who makes a dime on anything, be it an airplane or a glass of lemonade, must answer, no, must stand trial for that dime.

    And that is delightful to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    And this leads you to conclude that you deserve a report from SQEX on how much money they're making on a particular item in their inventory? Are you, in fact, a shareholder?
    No, we're responding to what you said in your original post.

    "You have not the right to ask a company what they make in profit."

    "They need not answer to anyone on how they spend their money."

    1) you're assuming I'm not a Shareholder.
    2) I can ask, can't I?
    3) they do need to answer to their Shareholders how they spend their money (surely not penny-by-penny but to an extent).
    4) I never said the general populace is required a line-item report from SQEX, you're essentially putting words in our mouths.

    You need to be much more careful with your words if you want to spar.

    It's especially helpful if you don't act so presumptuously.

    You've been back-pedaling hard son.

    All of a sudden now you're acting as if you didn't speak in absolutes earlier or presume we weren't shareholders lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    snip
    I have yet to stop speaking in absolutes.

    I do presume you're not a shareholder.

    I do presume you're a socialist-minded individual who, while we're speaking of backpedaling, dear sir, conceded very nicely that SE need not answer penny-for-penny to your request.

    The fact that you are here posting indicates that you actually have no better grounds for inquiry, because if you did, you'd be using that as a weapon, rather than throwing out this shameless bravado.

    You have no right to ask this of Square Enix. That is the long and short of it.

    The presumption continues; your turn, mon ami.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    what the blue heck are you doing demanding a report ON A GAME FORUM?!


    ...you believe that anyone who makes a dime on anything, be it an airplane or a glass of lemonade, must answer, no, must stand trial for that dime.
    You have some work to do learning the English language.

    Asking and demanding mean different things.

    To the second quotation point, more presumption lol... keep telling me what I believe, because you're so good at gleaning it.

    "I do presume you're a socialist-minded individual who... ...conceded very nicely that SE need not answer penny-for-penny to your request."

    I never said they need answer penny-for-penny to my request, did I?

    More stuffing words down my mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    You have some work to do learning the English language.

    Asking and demanding mean different things.

    To the second quotation point, more presumption LOL.
    Therefore you concede you have no right to this information, and the battle is won. <o.o Thanks for the laughs.

    Presumption served me well. Thank you, Presumption!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleheart View Post
    I'll do ya one better.

    I own a business with payroll over one and a half million dollars a year. Been in the business ten years o.O took ownership three years before now. Just got our employees a $5/hour raise.

    But continue to inform me, kind sir, on how wrong I am about why the business exists, and what business you have enquiring about anyone else's profit margin.
    A business exists to make a profit, not to provide a service. They make a profit by providing that service. o.0
    You may own a business but you're still wrong. Businesses exists to create value, both for a customer and for the person running the business. You have no revenue without a customer, you have no customer without a service/product/etc. You don't make profit from nothing. It's a two-way street.


    You have not the right to ask a company what they make in profit. o.o If you do not like their service, you may walk away. You may not ask for a copy of their Quickbooks file.
    Also, anyone can go to square enix's site and see all of their financial reports. It's not a secret. So you can, in fact, find out how much profit a company makes. So you're wrong again.

    And it's the business of an investor, the SEC (and whatever other government agency they need to answer to), and anyone interested really, how much profit a company makes.

    Sure, this doesn't apply to a small business like yours, but Square Enix is far from a small business.

    They need not answer to anyone on how they spend their money, any more than you need answer to anyone about how you spend your paycheck.
    Also, you seriously don't see the difference between a publicly traded company's income and a private individual's income, which also makes you wrong.

    You have been informed, kind sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk View Post
    You have been informed, kind sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk View Post
    You have been informed, kind sir.
    Incorrectly, should I say laughably so.

    Public trading... I don't think it means what you think it means.

    An individual does not have free reins to the details of cost/expenditures on any given item in the company's inventory. (o.O ) Investment reports are a far cry from the stuff requested in this thread.

    I really cannot believe you just posted about a financial report as indication on the public's right to know about profit on a given item.

    I honestly cannot believe it.

    o_o tinyurl.com/nejpjh5

    Find me their profit for the year, then find out how much was spent on development for FFXIV, how much was advertising, profit, etc.

    Let's see it.


    And it's the business of an investor, the SEC (and whatever other government agency they need to answer to), and anyone interested really, how much profit a company makes.
    You are not an investor, neither is the OP.

    Willing to bet neither of you are in the SEC.

    As for anyone else interested... to you I say, good luck, kid, you're gonna need it.

    Let's just see if SE dutifully responds to your information demands. I mean, you deserve it, after all... surely they won't deny you the information that is rightfully yours.

    I wish i could convey a smirk over the internet. Let's kick back and see what you get, kids. Let's just see.
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