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  1. #541
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    Madoka's Avatar
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Tera didn't go P2W until after they went F2P. Most times you see a vanity only cash shop going into P2W is after a P2P game goes F2P. Otherwise most cash shops are already slightly P2W and just get horrendously worse; see any korean f2p like maplestory.

    So until they drop the sub I wouldn't worry about it here. They'd also have to get dynamic stats or implement buff pots that last longer than 15 seconds for it to actually allow p2w to exist and we'll see that coming in advance.
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  2. #542
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho86 View Post
    Cash Shop - nickle and diming you for small pieces of the game that should of been included with set price of expansion or included based off sub fees alone if the next chapter wasn't ready yet.
    Yup. Can't help but feel sceptical...
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  3. #543
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akubikumo View Post
    Fantasias aren't content.
    Neither are mounts and minions, technically. My game progression doesn't come to a halt by not having a specific mount or minion - The only content that utilizes Mounts are beast tribe quests, which provides them to you free of charge for the quest(s) they're needed in. If Mounts and minions are considered content, fantasias are too as they're also an in-game item and not simply an account service.

    which make sense to charge for as they require extra work on SEs part
    Actually, transfers are automated unless something happens on the backend that requires a tech to do it manually - heck everything is actually automated unless something goes wrong. When you get down to it, them doing vet rewards is no different from cash shop, with the cash shop you can get it whenever you want rather than paying $20-$80+, which is far more expensive.
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  4. #544
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    Quote Originally Posted by KirakunAUS View Post
    If you don't like how this is being manage. Stop subbing. Let the wallet do the talking.
    I am. I have still around 3 months left that I have already paid for and then I'm gone. But I love this game and I'm sad to leave, these forums are feedback to the devs and this is mine. I've got nothing else to say.
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  5. #545
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    I would be curious to know what the japan's players community think about this.

    To my little point of view, I couldn't care less about vanity shop to be honest, no one will force me to buy vanity things if I don't want to... But it still put serious questions about the future of this "extra".
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    All of these items were developed using our subscription fee. We have already paid the money to develop them. How is it OK for us to be asked to pay an extra fee for them?
    this ^ is the real and very key question of a vanity cash shop in a P2P game, is it acceptable? And how many people/devs it will lock out from real ingame contents works? Will they be able to never cross the line and fall into pay to win cash shop?...
    As an huge FF-fanboy, I'm feeling very disturbed by such weird decisions and hope to count on Square Enix wisdom.
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  6. #546
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Oh Square. When I pay a monthly feel, I should be paying for the whole game. You want a cash shop, fine, but please just choose one model or the other.

    This is just greedy.
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  7. #547
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    I am. I have still around 3 months left that I have already paid for and then I'm gone. But I love this game and I'm sad to leave, these forums are feedback to the devs and this is mine. I've got nothing else to say.
    Your not alone, I ran from SWTOR for similar implementation. I think I might hold on a little bit longer to see how this turns out in this case.

    Soon enough, I expect to see in game advertisements for the shop and that will be my breaking point personally.
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    Always remember the Silver Rule:
    "Treat others as they treat you!" ...or something like that.

  8. #548
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    I'm ok with a cash shop. As long as it's not P2W I don't have a problem. You want to spend 5 bucks on a minion? Go for it. If you have the extra cash to spend on in game items then do so if it will make you happen, no one is forcing you to buy vanity items.
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  9. #549
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    Well I see. Since the housing disappointment I don't have any motivation to join the game again.
    If this really is confirmed, it does not make anything better.

    For a moment I was thinking SE is on a good track since years. But if they keep the direction I see many people leaving the game.
    (Sry for bad english)
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  10. #550
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    Eru Meru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codek View Post
    Your not alone, I ran from SWTOR for similar implementation. I think I might hold on a little bit longer to see how this turns out in this case.

    Soon enough, I expect to see in game advertisements for the shop and that will be my breaking point personally.
    The only time they've advertised anything is on their launcher. They don't advertise within the game itself, with stuff like: "Go to mogstation.com to buy X." That's because for them it would a big lore no-no.
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    If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after you pump 8, 32 caliber, slugs into it, it's probably a dragon.

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