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  1. #1411
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    One thing I really enjoyed about this game over other MMORPGs is that even the implementation of something simple like a new emote or a minion had a little story quest associated with getting them.

    It gave a little bit of context and immersion to something as basic as adding a new dance emote or a minion and I fear all that will be gone now that they can simply just slap them onto the cash shop instead of devoting development time to an unlock quest.

    If that is to happen, I would prefer the game go free to play as it's no longer holds and immersive edge over games like Archeage, Guild Wars 2 or SWtoR.

    I'm not overly against a cash shop, I just hope it isn't used in such a way as to cheapen the overall experience of playing what up until now is one of the most immersive MMOs on the market.
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  2. #1412
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    Quote Originally Posted by MortalWare View Post
    One thing I really enjoyed about this game over other MMORPGs is that even the implementation of something simple like a new emote or a minion had a little story quest associated with getting them.
    Oh dear, I hope they'll never make any emotes cash shop exclusive. For mounts and minions it's already happening, so I wouldn't be surprised.
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  3. #1413
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    Quote Originally Posted by MortalWare View Post
    One thing I really enjoyed about this game over other MMORPGs is that even the implementation of something simple like a new emote or a minion had a little story quest associated with getting them.

    It gave a little bit of context and immersion to something as basic as adding a new dance emote or a minion and I fear all that will be gone now that they can simply just slap them onto the cash shop instead of devoting development time to an unlock quest.

    If that is to happen, I would prefer the game go free to play as it's no longer holds and immersive edge over games like Archeage, Guild Wars 2 or SWtoR.

    I'm not overly against a cash shop, I just hope it isn't used in such a way as to cheapen the overall experience of playing what up until now is one of the most immersive MMOs on the market.
    ...Really? You realize the grand majority of minions and such are going to be achieved via the game still, right? How does the CS adding a few completely change everything? It definitely shouldn't go F2P just because of a few vanity things. =/ That's rather extreme.
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  4. #1414
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miya_Carbuncle View Post
    How does the CS adding a few completely change everything?
    Not like going F2P. But stablish the first step towards microtransactions for ingame items (which is diferent from services like fantasia or retainers) and eventually it can lead to a bigger and bigger movement of content for the game being moved behind a paywall. From now on, each update, will bring minions and mounts that could be ingame but now, they are going to be on cash shop, in the future even vanity gear that could be crafted will move behind a paywall and so forth. That is sad, that actually hurts the game.

    From now on, everytime they do something cool for the game they will think "and if we put it on the cash shop?" and that changes everything. As from now on, will not be exclusively your gaming experience, skills, efforts, time and luck what decides what you got to make your character cooler, but a simple credit card microtransaction.
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  5. #1415
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miya_Carbuncle View Post
    ...Really? You realize the grand majority of minions and such are going to be achieved via the game still, right? How does the CS adding a few completely change everything? It definitely shouldn't go F2P just because of a few vanity things. =/ That's rather extreme.
    For the most part every game that has added a cash shop starts out small, then expands. Every update will add more and more to the cash shop that could (would) have been available in game. Then there is always the risk of them pushing the envelope, and considering SE is a corporation that is interested in maximizing profits, they will.

    This will eventually lead us to where wow has gotten, buying max level characters and xp/tombstone potions.

    One of the many reasons i enjoyed this game was the fact that there was no cash shop, but now i will probably save my sub and just go to GW2.
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  6. #1416
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    Quote Originally Posted by gorror View Post
    For the most part every game that has added a cash shop starts out small, then expands. Every update will add more and more to the cash shop that could (would) have been available in game. Then there is always the risk of them pushing the envelope, and considering SE is a corporation that is interested in maximizing profits, they will.

    This will eventually lead us to where wow has gotten, buying max level characters and xp/tombstone potions.

    One of the many reasons i enjoyed this game was the fact that there was no cash shop, but now i will probably save my sub and just go to GW2.
    Let me add to this. Another thing that really really bothers me is something I call "cash equality". I pay ~$120 for a year's worth of FFXIV. When the cash shop keeps expanding, its likely I will be paying $120 or triple that for every item in the shop. On one hand we have all the content in FFXIV my $120 sub can buy and on the other we have the dozens of items that cost the same thing. Its madness!! It would be great if someone from SE could go on record as saying all the cash shop proceeds are going back into the development of FFXIV. In other words, if the dozens of items in the cash shop directly meant hours and hours of more content in FFXIV proper, I would be happy. Oh and fixing personal housing to make it truly personal. That would be good too.
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  7. #1417
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    Holy Echo Chamber Batman!

    How about we wait for the thing to come out before we sharpen the torches and pitchforks?
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  8. #1418
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    Let me add to this. Another thing that really really bothers me is something I call "cash equality". I pay ~$120 for a year's worth of FFXIV. When the cash shop keeps expanding, its likely I will be paying $120 or triple that for every item in the shop.
    Then SE succeeded - They're a business and they're making money...what's the problem? They're not your BFF from high school

    It would be great if someone from SE could go on record as saying all the cash shop proceeds are going back into the development of FFXIV.
    Business doesn't work that way - Money the company SE makes goes to:

    - Development of projects in general
    - Employee Paychecks
    - Paying investors (depending on projects)
    - Maintenance on their MMOs and other online services
    - R&D
    - Etc.

    Your sub for XIV already doesn't 100% go to development of XIV, just like the billions FFXI made SE, they likely allocate money to other projects which is how a business works - especially software development.

    In other words, if the dozens of items in the cash shop directly meant hours and hours of more content in FFXIV proper,
    Ask yourself this question: What has the quality of 2.1 - 2.4 (soon) update been in your opinion? If you think it's been the best ever, the cash shop won't improve nor degrade that as that is how they plan the development of this game. If you find it to be..pretty meh, that's not going to change with a cash shop because it's up to Yoshida what the updates are like - they could have unlimited money and not 1 cent of it could go towards "extra development".
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 10-25-2014 at 11:30 PM.

  9. #1419
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    Meredy Aifread
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    Wish the cash shop had special items like the ones GW2 has. Party boxes for your FC, LS, Friends that put up a table with food, ale barrel and such stuff
    You can open those anywhere even in the open places so that all people can join

    Also consumables that temporarily alter your appearance into something else, like random Eorzean monster
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  10. #1420
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    Cova Morningstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by haseo0730 View Post
    Wish the cash shop had special items like the ones GW2 has. Party boxes for your FC, LS, Friends that put up a table with food, ale barrel and such stuff
    You can open those anywhere even in the open places so that all people can join

    Also consumables that temporarily alter your appearance into something else, like random Eorzean monster
    SE is too busy adding more grind to add very many fun things like that unfortunately.
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