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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    Just imagine what the anniversary would have been with a cash shop. No DQ, FFXI and LR fates, no Minfilia and Thancred minions, they'd have all been available at the cash shop! How many people will buy the "Huzzah!" emote when the 2nd birthday comes?


    Hit the nail on the head.
    Oh, I forgot you can get the mog minion and plushie for free. Totally hit the nail on the head there! Just like the minion you get for buying the soudtrack, or the minion for buying the CE copy of the game. Totally free and always has been.

    ...Really? some minions will be free, others wont. It will always be that way and always has been that way, and I don't see why that's a big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miya_Carbuncle View Post
    Oh, I forgot you can get the mog minion and plushie for free. Totally hit the nail on the head there! Just like the minion you get for buying the soudtrack, or the minion for buying the CE copy of the game. Totally free and always has been.

    ...Really?
    It's been discussed a thousand times in more than this thread why it's not the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    It's been discussed a thousand times in more than this thread why it's not the same thing.
    ... That makes no sense. For the mog minion, you buy the mog plushie. For the CE minion you buy the CE copy for the game.

    It's literally the same thing. You buy something, and a minion comes with it as a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miya_Carbuncle View Post
    ... That makes no sense. For the mog minion, you buy the mog plushie. For the CE minion you buy the CE copy for the game.

    It's literally the same thing. You buy something, and a minion comes with it as a bonus.
    Well with CE, you can buy the digital CE version which is literally just the mounts and minion.
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    SE isn't really new to doing dlc / optional content, they budget out a certain amount of content to be premium. All of there console release games have a lot of optional content.

    Here is an example, have you guys played Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call? There is about 30 extra songs you can buy on the eshop. You get like 200 songs when you buy the game, SE gave away 2 dlc songs for free but now they charge 99 cents a song if you want them all its about another 30 bucks. This is basically the age of micro transactions in games. It has already been proven that a majority of people will buy the extra stuff vs the people who will quit and not use their product.
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    Well, reposting what I said in another thread



    Would be nice for everyone if cash show was...

    A kicktarter/patreon kinda stuff

    Bear with me...

    1- Cash shop sells items to players
    2- Players contribute to a goal of cash (shown or not)
    3- New items are made for cash shop with those funds (a design team other than the one they have so game play content don't get delayed)
    4- Contributing players get a single exclusive item (like veteran reward but with cash shop support)
    5- Old items get discounted (till they are free/almost free)
    6- repeat

    That way shop gets funding for more MODELS and not just re-skins of items/gear, and those models can be used for other stuff/quests for everyone, and with discounts it would be nice for everyone.

    Give shop cash as a veteran reward so people can get items from shop without spending more money, and there, everyone happy
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazo View Post
    Would be nice for everyone if cash show was...

    A kicktarter/patreon kinda stuff
    Here's my issue with this-and I've seen this brought up elsewhere for other games as well - SE is a multi-million dollar company. Kickstarters (and the like) are for people/groups who DON'T already have the money and want to produce something. Why should I (in effect) donate money to SE (or any big-name company) to get something better out of my game? Which I'm already paying a monthly fee for btw. Even if they give me things (virtual things at that) for my money, it's still a multi-million dollar company asking for donations to do what they've already been doing for years and are already getting paid millions to do. And that doesn't sit well with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SalemP View Post
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    Sorry, English is not my native language, is "kinda" mean that I actually said that I want them to use the actual kickstarter???

    the thing that I suggested is that the shop revenues that SE receives by selling thing in the shop to be inverted in new shop items, you are not investing, you are just purchasing and by your early purchases getting some kind of exclusive reward, and old items to be cheaper overtime and SE giving some small credit as veteran reward to get something from the shop (most likely cheaper items) and with all that making a cycle of early adopters with money but the items being available for everyone without spending more than the subscription.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazo View Post
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    No I got what you meant. Give them money so they can do more things. But I'm already doing that when I buy the game and pay my monthly subscription.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    They aren't making FFXIV as some form of charity.
    See comment above. No one is asking them to be a charity. We pay a monthly subscription fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SalemP View Post
    No I got what you meant. Give them money so they can do more things. But I'm already doing that when I buy the game and pay my monthly subscription. We pay a monthly subscription fee.
    I think a lot of you are forgetting the huge hit they took with 1.0, resources and time lost, rebuilding the game, restructuring their company, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they were still in the red from 1.0 and not quite recovered.
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