Yoshi and Team treading that fine line

[Gokulo]

I'll use my time to help you if you've already used your time to help yourself. Just don't expect me and 6 others to waste an hour if you haven't even put in 10 minutes.

^ this so much.
In general, people won't have a problem with helping. But they have a problem wasting their time helping somebody who isn't putting even a slight effort or can't deal with simple requirements.

[Rbstr]

I think they need to add greater rewards for people that go into Coil with clears under their belt once it hits DF.
Once the good people and the people with a ton of time on their hands get through and get their stuff there's little incentive to get back in and help people out. I find my patience with Turn 5 and things gets pretty low, especially when half the group has prior clears...

Use the first-timer bonus to hand out the 2.4 equivalent to sands or something?

[Argyle_Darkheart]

Actually; there are many modern theories that the self-esteem movement actually did the opposite of what you describe. Around their early to mid teens, the younger generation began to understand that the praise they were given was meaningless, and thus made them unable to distinguish what contributions they were making to their environment were meaningful or not.

This, coupled with being raised into a failing economy, destroyed their self-esteem and thus their motivation to do much, lacking both a sense of worth in their work both psychologically (through comprehensible esteem feedback,) and materially (through the majority of modern wage labor being literally incapable of meeting the US' own bare minimum fair rent requirements.)

Interesting post. I would agree that those things have also happened.
I would disagree, however, that what you and I claimed are mutually exclusive. That is, complacency and self-entitlement can go hand-in-hand with a lack of self-worth and motivation. It's the cognitive dissonance that arises once reality contradicts expectation. Some egos deflated, others inflated --some developed a deficit of self-worth, others a surplus.

Still, my point was more that the self-esteem movement was a failure, rather than that it only fostered those two personality traits that I presented. I will happily concede that its failures were manifold. I think the movement failed because it suggested that "everyone is great," rather than "everyone can be great." Rather than teaching children that they could win, it taught them that they couldn't lose.