ninja gears

[Cynric]

like for allagan, soldiery gear. stuff like that.

the generic stuff that already exists and fits its own theme. fuma is an exception, but couldn't they just add a recolored fuma for ninja?

I doubt they'd do that, considering Fuma is Ninja specific in FF3, that much I can be sure of because they seem to like to keep FF to its roots to an extent. I'm sure the introduction of 3.0 jobs, Fuma gear, the community opinion, and the current in game tooltips all influenced why their decision for the stat, whatever it may be took so long.

[Deusteele]

Nothing baffling about it. The Ninja Attack Power calculation will use Dex in the formula rather then Str. Since every attack flows from Attack Power it's a simple thing to understand.

As per the gear, it's as simple as most pre-50 DoW gear has both Str and Dex on it. They are just going to apply to all this methodology level 50 MNK gear, in existence during the current patch, that isn't uniquely locked to Monk, like it's artifact gear. Starting in 2.4 NIN will have it's own gear that only has Dex on it.

It's really that simple.

[saber_alter]

I doubt they'd do that, considering Fuma is Ninja specific in FF3, that much I can be sure of because they seem to like to keep FF to its roots to an extent. I'm sure the introduction of 3.0 jobs, Fuma gear, the community opinion, and the current in game tooltips all influenced why their decision for the stat, whatever it may be took so long.

point taken, but they did add fuma anyway for monk...

which kinda conflicts. why add fuma for monk and not just give them something else so ninja can have fuma? confusing. also, by adding dex to all of monk's gear would technically allow bard to also use it, the only thing that would prevent it would be class restrictions.

[ZReport]

like for allagan, soldiery gear. stuff like that.

the generic stuff that already exists and fits its own theme. fuma is an exception, but couldn't they just add a recolored fuma for ninja?

They could have, and it wouldn't have been unheard of (MNK & BRD 2.3 tomestome gear being recolors of each other; DRG & MNK sharing the same image of Syrus Tower gear, but having different stats). Fuma, while indicative of Ninja historically (Fūma Kotarō, famed Ninja leader in the Edo Japan period), has been armor that could been used by not only Ninja, but also Monks and Samurai in Final Fantasy XI (even if it's only feet armor). It might have caused a fiasco in Japan over historics if they didn't apply Fuma to Ninja, however.

It's just a far easier option to apply Ninja to everything that Monk wears in a blanket fashion, so they don't have to go back and make individual sets for Ninja at every level. You have to consider that there's multiple i70, i80, and i90 sets available now as well in addition to i100 and i110 sets. This covers them across the board and allows for them to start off Ninja-specific armor with patch 2.4.

[kiraan]

They said it would be easy gear wise to go from other melee to Ninja, so it will at least use STR accesories.

[Ultimatecalibur]

As per the gear, it's as simple as most pre-50 DoW gear has both Str and Dex on it. They are just going to apply to all this methodology level 50 MNK gear, in existence during the current patch, that isn't uniquely locked to Monk, like it's artifact gear. Starting in 2.4 NIN will have it's own gear that only has Dex on it.

Don't be surprised if NIN/MNK share all non-AF(aka "generic") left side gear from now on so that random drops on non-weapons don't get to crazy. Future classes will also likely share "generic" gear with the existing classes.

[jObEfiSH]

Yes, because them clearly saying it will be DEX wasn't a confirmation... They weren't looking us in the eye when they said it! They were still in a laughing/amused state because of the previous joke of Monk gear being hinted at and Koji Fox making a joke about the OBVIOUS FIST hint getting confused as White Mage. How much more clear could the Ninja being DEX based could they make it? They stated it clearly it will be DEX, how it will work with MNK gear is up to them but how you people are still making conspiracy theories over this is beyond me.

[ZReport]

Yes, because them clearly saying it will be DEX wasn't a confirmation... They weren't looking us in the eye when they said it! They were still in a laughing/amused state because of the previous joke of Monk gear being hinted at and Koji Fox making a joke about the OBVIOUS FIST hint getting confused as White Mage. How much more clear could the Ninja being DEX based could they make it? They stated it clearly it will be DEX, how it will work with MNK gear is up to them but how you people are still making conspiracy theories over this is beyond me.

It's far easier to try to debase someones statement to fit their narrative than to swallow the pill of being incorrect in a subject matter. If you notice, people are trying to attack the fact that he told a joke about White Mages & Black Mages (red herrings, punching motions basically give away the fact that it's shared with Monk gear) rather than throw out the entire joke as irrelevant and focus on the fact that he was really serious when he initially said Ninja is DEX based. Far easier to say Yoshi-P was joking about the entire thing and nothing could be taken serious.

It's OK however. 9 more days until this entire topic is irrelevant and everyone is finally sold on the fact that Ninja is DEX by having the content shoved in their faces, lol.

[kiraan]

It's far easier to try to debase someones statement to fit their narrative than to swallow the pill of being incorrect in a subject matter. If you notice, people are trying to attack the fact that he told a joke about White Mages & Black Mages (red herrings, punching motions basically give away the fact that it's shared with Monk gear) rather than throw out the entire joke as irrelevant and focus on the fact that he was really serious when he initially said Ninja is DEX based. Far easier to say Yoshi-P was joking about the entire thing and nothing could be taken serious.

It's OK however. 9 more days until this entire topic is irrelevant and everyone is finally sold on the fact that Ninja is DEX by having the content shoved in their faces, lol.

And you don't take into account that he said transitionning from other melee gear wise would be easy, implying they share the same main stat.

So we're still back to square 1, as both are still possible.

[ZReport]

And you don't take into account that he said transitionning from other melee gear wise would be easy, implying they share the same main stat.

So we're still back to square 1, as both are still possible.

You're the person missing the point. There is nothing hard about gearing from level 1 to level 50. It's all straight up dungeon & craftable gear that's already been shared between DRG, MNK and BRD (and now NIN). Almost all melee gear that's not DRG/WAR/PLD is shared between all melee classes and have both STR and DEX on them.

There is also nothing hard about transitioning from other melee gear at the iLvL stage. This assumes if you already have Monk leveled up and/or have Bard Accessories. Regardless, reaching i110 will no longer be a difficult task at all, making the "process" complete irrelevant even if you don't have either leveled up.

You're trying to use a strawman argument to try and explain how STR is still the main stat for Ninja, when it's clearly obvious to anyone who was listening that it's DEX.