Ishgardian classes

[LiveVoltage]

Isnt Necromancer and undead more of Gridania's stick? I mean, there are cases of undead everywhere, but undead and dark magic in generally has a centrally heavy theme in the shroud and gridania in general.

If I am following what the Dev's have announced, they said they will be adding two new jobs and classes. One healer and one tank. possibly more than that though. The 3.0 build will have a heavy theme on Ishgard in general so its safe to say the a class like Dark knight will be given. Templar seems to be out of the question though because we have Paladin's and thats what Templar's are, just with another name. I think the Ishgard pope and his clergy could have some interesting lore as cleric's and healers so realistically, we could see Dark Knight and Cleric=>Bishop.

Dark knight might also get it's own base class if it doesn't share the same weapon set as Paladin.

[Balipu]

I think the Ishgard pope and his clergy could have some interesting lore as cleric's and healers so realistically, we could see Dark Knight and Cleric=>Bishop.

Dark knight might also get it's own base class if it doesn't share the same weapon set as Paladin.

Yes I also think that Bishop would fit very well with the HOLY SEE of Ishgard. I wonder, is the church still run by Lahabrea and Elidibus? If so, that could be awkward.

[LiveVoltage]

Yes I also think that Bishop would fit very well with the HOLY SEE of Ishgard. I wonder, is the church still run by Lahabrea and Elidibus? If so, that could be awkward.

At best, Lahabrea and Elidibus are advisors to the see at this moment. The pope still has complete control, but is probably being misguided by Ascian machinations.

[Balipu]

At best, Lahabrea and Elidibus are advisors to the see at this moment. The pope still has complete control, but is probably being misguided by Ascian machinations.

Complete control? Pfffff We don't know that. Patch 2.4 might shead some light on the matter. We saw an Ascian overlord in the trailer but his maks was not visible so I couldn't tell if it was Lahabrea or not.

[Sequora]

If Dark Knight is added it will more than likely be a tank class. Currently we have two tanks, two healers, two physical melee DPS, 1 physical ranged DPS, and 2 caster DPS. NIN is a melee DPS class so we'll now have three. They've said that we're getting a new tank and a new healer. I still think that the new healer is going to be chemist as the musketeer's guild has been in the game since 1.0 and we still don't have a class that uses guns. Now that leaves the tank class. I cannot imagine that SE would add another melee DPS class to the expansion after adding NIN to 2.4 before adding a new caster DPS. I'm personally hoping for a caster DPS to go alongside with ninja, and the new tank/healer in the expansion.

[lyndwyrm]

I think the city would be incomplete without the DoH and DoL classes, so I'll give them some mention.

I think Mason would be an interesting DoH to add, along with more things conceivably made out of stone (mostly weapons, with some heavy armor, mats, and housing goods). This only fits in with Ishgard better than Gridania, but I think it could work. Unfortunately I don't know a whole lot else they could add for crafting, since we do have most the bases covered.

I saw this in the general discussion thread about Heavensward, but I think shepherd would be an interesting DoL that could fit with Ishgard (mainly thinking of the karukals). It could gather animal goods from conceivably tamed (or wild) animals, fleece, skins, meat, horns, etc. Most of those are currently available from mob drops, but the class shouldn't be totally redundant and should include things unique to gathering, finding a use for those things though.....

I would imagine most of the new classes added in the expansion will be placed in Ishgard (with the exception of musketeer), but they could have jobs elsewhere. For example, a katana wielding class could start in Ishgard, but then go to Limsa (or Mor Dhona for that matter) to get the samurai job. I do think that Dark Knight would start in Ishgard though. I've gotten a dark'n'unfriendly vibe from Ishgardians so far, so I think they'd go well together.

[Alice_89th]

I would imagine most of the new classes added in the expansion will be placed in Ishgard (with the exception of musketeer), but they could have jobs elsewhere. For example, a katana wielding class could start in Ishgard, but then go to Limsa (or Mor Dhona for that matter) to get the samurai job. I do think that Dark Knight would start in Ishgard though. I've gotten a dark'n'unfriendly vibe from Ishgardians so far, so I think they'd go well together.

I find it hard to imagine a katana wielding class in Ishgard. If anything I expect that such a class would be introduced in a possible future expansion that takes us east. If they would appear in 2.4, I'd expect them to be in Mor Dhona. The Doman refugees have settled there for the time being, and Revenant's Toll is ever expanding. It wouldn't be weird to see guilds pop up there either.

As for DoH / DoL though.... like mentioned above most, if not all, of the bases are covered. The only thing I can think off is glass crafts. But try and find a use for that besides housing and jewellery. Well, that and electrician magitek.

[LiveVoltage]

Complete control? Pfffff We don't know that. Patch 2.4 might shead some light on the matter. We saw an Ascian overlord in the trailer but his maks was not visible so I couldn't tell if it was Lahabrea or not.

If I remember correctly, it was a Ascian in a white robe and another in a red mask. They may not be one and the same people though but eh... *shrugs*

Well, I retract my statement somewhat. Not complete control if he is being manipulated by Ascian's. If I recall correctly, Ascian's cant be seen by normal people so it would explain how they would be in Coerthas and manipulating the pope without the templars putting them to the sword. I could be wrong about that though and they could be there on the good grace of the pope.

[JakzChurchill]

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Well with Ninja being Dex based they have balanced out the classes to have 2 jobs for each stat. Which makes it very likely that this is their intention moving forward so I expect one job per stat to be added with the expansion. For me Dark Knight would be the melee dps. With chemist, musketeer/gun mage, mystic knight/samurai/Templar, red mage/time mage/geomancer. Filling the other stats.

They were also very coy about the fact they mentioned jobs and not classes, this either means branching jobs from previous classes (I hope this isn't the case, I'd prefer new mechanics from scratch and the need to level than just be handed a new job) or they are going to rework the job system to do away with classes (if implemented correctly would be a welcome change.)

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

Following with the lore that Ishgard serves as the chocobo breeding hub of eorzea, I could picture a quest line that leads up to unlocking the beastmaster job involving one of these chocobo breeders (I'm looking at you, FFXI beastmaster quest). It could even be that the shepherd's guild which someone pointed out was an unused guild from 1.0 that was located in coerthas, could perhaps actually be a DoW guild which serves as the class leading up to beastmaster.

Back in the days before the launch of 2.0 when yoshi-p would often give interviews on his vision for the game, he talked about wanting pet classes but he was torn over whether it would be a class where the master summons a permanent pet, or if it would be something like XI's beastmaster where you temporarily gain control of one the monsters roaming in the world. With summoner we already have the permanent pet option, so maybe yoshi-p will add the "tamer" style of pet class with 3.0.