Burning Questions, Round One: It's Mostly About The Five Races

[Ansemaru]

Oh, thank you for letting me know about the post edit thing. I use these forums very infrequently, so I was not aware!

[Velox]

• What language does "Sagolii" come from?

Outside of speculation, I don't think we have a definitive answer on this. That being said, I have my suspicions that the word "Sagolii" stems from the native Miqo'te language. We don't have a lot of information on what the Miqo'te language is, but we do have the name of "Olgoi'Khorkhoi" (big fish from Southern Thanalan) which was named by the U tribe if you read the log. Given how both "Olgoi'Khorkhoi" and "Sagolii" both utilize o's, g's, and i's in similar function, it's my guess that "Sagolii" also shares roots in Miqo'te origin.

• We now know that "De Nevelle" and "La Thagran" are taken from the names of Elezen explorers. Are "La Noscea" and "Costa del Sol" also originally Elezen turns of phrase? If not, who coined them? For that matter- is Vylbrand, like it sounds, a Roegadyn name for the island? What about Limsa Lominsa? It sounds Lalafell in origin.

Just throwing this out there but Costa del Sol is Spanish for Coast of the Sun (Sun's Coast). It fits with the theme of the region, but always bothered me that it's blatantly a Spanish-influenced name in a game where the language doesn't exist. I know, doesn't really answer your question, just something that has irked me :P

[Grayve]

Well, Costa del Sol is a clear shout out the same named region in FFVII. Which was also a beach resort.

[Ansemaru]

But at the same time, that's just an out-of-universe explanation, and anything that has one of those also has an in-universe justification and role!

That being said, we also see the Sabotender del Sol earlier on in the main quest, and the "La" in La Noscea is a particle that appears in multiple romance languages. My suspicion is that the equivalent of French in Eorzea is an archaic Elezen language and that there are/were related languages that were the equivalents of Spanish, Portuguese, and Italian, but these are primarily spoken outside of Eorzea (probably in Ilsabard) or have fallen into disuse. Given that Garlean language is very similar to Latin, it could also be connected to that. We don't know that an equivalent to Spanish doesn't exist in Eorzea, we just only see it in a few very isolated naming examples, which implies that it is very uncommon or outdated and thus not actively spoken (much like the native Roegadyn language and the old Miqo'te language).

[QuistisV]

According to the lore I've read Padjal are all born from rare bloodlines back from the Gelmorra days. Each of these Padjal bloodlines belong to old Hyur families. So that's why we only see Hyur versions of them.
I couldn't tell you why these families are blessed with this holy gift, though.
Maybe they were all part of some secret healers fraternity.

[Empressia]

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1. Simple, Elezen as well as other high elves stereotype is always defined as VERY PROUD people who deemed half elves / mixed blood (in this case padjali Elezen is considered Half Elezen and Half Elemental) as dirty, impure, lesser, weaker, condemned race while Hyurs as well as any other Human stereotypes is defined as either welcoming / amused / simply shunned mixed blood Half Humans. Heck even in other games, where Human and Orc is mortal enemies, u will still find Half Human Half Orc hybrid races while on the other hand, i've never heard of Half Elf Half orc hybrid

2. Its quite amusing, as we haven't seen any Miqote in the Allagan population (Graha Tia's Allagan eye could be gene manipulation though as the royal Allagan eye is shared between 3 different races and we haven't seen hybrids of these 3 races, and thus we can outcast Miqote from the Allagan population). Stat wise it might have been the keepers who summoned primals as they have higher magical attributes for doin those magical feats.

3. Pretty sure Sagolii is Amaljaa's language considering its next door to their Paglthan homeland, and they predates any other 5 races who lived there

[Empressia]

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1. Regarding Limsa Lominsa notice 2 keywords: pirate haven and how it carved out from the cliff. How did pirates from different groups WILLING to occupy and shared same place withoout them killing each other (Bloodshore lore is another case)? i speculate LL originally was a smugglers haven built on a cove which was controlled by a Lala (by the lack of better term) "trade prince". As masters of economy, these GREEDY MIDGETS can easily paid those pirates to say, carved cliffs and began constructing buildings, bridges, ports, etc.

2. Dzemael house members might be stationed inside Ishgard because we don't have a vague description of how the 4 noble houses of Ishgard interact with each other politically (we only see the militarily interaction ingame). As for the cultural divide of Elezens in Ishgard vs Black Shroud, u forget that religion zeals and a nation city FULL of XENOPHOBIC FANATICS is much stronger than silly cultural differences

[Empressia]

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She is a puppet controlled by the invisible dreadful yet always unseen Elementals or we can draw real world comparison by sayin Kan-E-Senna is the revered head of a religion state obeying whoever their God is, and thus have more lower resistance from the ruling class / populaton (not to mention Gridania can also be painted in the same "religion"). Adding to the fact Gridanians are a bit XENOPHOBIC compared to Uldahns or Lominsans, Gridanians will view the bigger threat would be the outsiders instead of their own kind. The only way to start internal struggle in Gridania goverment would be another "rogue/wayward" faction of Elementals (we all know from the WHM questline that those Elementals is not of one mind) ordering their own conjurers for whatever agenda which is different from the "mainstream" Elementals thus duplicating real world religion schism that would eventually starts a sectarian war

[Empressia]

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1. Fifth Umbral "ice age" era when Mericydia continent forms a now sunken landbridge to sub continent Eorzea is the keyword. Real world case would be Indians (Miqotes) crossing the landbridge from Siberia (Mericydia) to Alaska (Eorzea). How could u assume the native peoples (beast tribes) are the original inhabitants when at eras past, there is no seperation between Mericydia Continent, Aldenard Continent and sub continent Eorzea when there was a single super continent? Heck we didn't have a clue if this unnamed super continent have other landbridges connected to other continents? We also didn't have history of these beast tribes migrating flow from and to elsewhere on this super continent? The Indians i mentioned above nowadays are considered native people of the North America when historically they're from Siberia. Thus the "RIGHT" stuff u gonna say is Miqote are native to Eorzea lol

2. (discounting those aggresive qiqqirn bandits) How does a "saint" would fit in a pacifist society?

[Empressia]

CONTINUALLY CONTINUED:

• Amdapor predated the arrival of Hyur in the Black Shroud. Can one assume that the majority of its population was, in that case, Elezen? Presumably, there were a scattering of Keeper of the Moon Miqo'te there as well, but Miqo'te have always had less of a presence in Eorzea than the other races. Of course, one can assume that Nym and the unnamed third nation involved in the War of the Magi were predominantly Lalafell, Plainsfolk and Dunesfolk, respectively.

Only three civilizations thrived in the Black Shroud : Amdapor, Gelmorra and Gridania. Each predates the other and considering facts that Gelmorra survivors build Gridania and Amdapor could possibly lived side by side with Gelmorra, we can safely assume their population is compromised of Hyurs and Elezens. As for Nym, its was populated by Lalas. Roegadyns (that Tonberry King and Stalkers) and possibly Hyurs (those Hyur sized skeletons inside WP)