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    Firepower's Avatar
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    Firepower Shinryu
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I agree the major issue here is there is generally a lack of middle ground for players who are competent enough (more competent than a lot of farm players) but haven't had the clear not by their fault but others not pulling their weight.

    For instance I neglected to clear Ramuh when the majority was still doing it, I have made it past adds several times now and pushed him down to 10% when he enraged (other DPS's died) and can consistently clear all the mechanics of the fight, but because of that stupid myth message I have little hope of ever getting a clear now since all parties that would be decent enough to clear the fight won't take me and that leaves me with learning parties. Clear parties are very rare as they require people who are no longer learning but do not have the clear and since farm people don't want to waste time they won't join so you get a clear party with a bunch of learners pretending to know what to do. So my options are either bash my head against the wall with duty finder until I luck out or sit in party finder for 6 hours trying to form a "win" party.

    Just because you cleared the fight doesn't mean you are any good at it. I remember when I cleared mog EX when it was released and started joining FARM (clear only) parties to try and get my necklace, the amount of trash players I ended up with who were killing moogles or more often than not straying into the middle of the arena getting hit by delta it took me longer to get my 2nd and 3rd victories over mog ex than it did the first. Not to mention the whole host of FC's that sell clears, how many people bought wins then rolled up into a farm party afterwards because they have the "clear".
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    Last edited by Firepower; 10-19-2014 at 08:13 PM.

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    Player Dashuto's Avatar
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    Dashuto Moragan
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Firepower View Post
    I agree the major issue here is there is generally a lack of middle ground for players who are competent enough (more competent than a lot of farm players) but haven't had the clear not by their fault but others not pulling their weight.
    This entire post is the most accurate and factual one in this thread.

    Firepower, I know your feel bro. I've had to convince teams to let me in despite message under the promise I knew what to do. I remember being one of only three left alive in my Turn 5 clear and then getting vited to 2nd coil after. But even finding a team like that took weeks and a lot of /tell convincing to leaders.
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