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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyrusticae View Post
    This talk confuses me.

    I don't know why people are assuming these jobs would have anything to do with one another or would be branched off of an existing base class. If anything, I would think that both SAM and DRK would be the jobs of entirely new classes; for example, Blade Master (Katana/Great Katana) -> Samurai and Knight (Greatsword) -> Dark Knight. Their fighting styles are not compatible with one another; great katanas (which are curved, single-edged swords) are simply not wielded in the same way as greatswords (which are bigger, straight, and double-edged). DRK could also end up using scythes, which no current DoW class is anything close to.
    Funny bit of history... the original appearance of the Dark Knight in Final Fantasy III had them using the "Dark Blades" Ashura, Kotetsu, Kiku-Ichimonji and Masamune and Cecil's 3 Dark Blades in Final Fantasy IV were straight single blade swords similar in design to Edge's Katanas.
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    Player Ahmbor's Avatar
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    V'ayne Mayathi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Funny bit of history... the original appearance of the Dark Knight in Final Fantasy III had them using the "Dark Blades" Ashura, Kotetsu, Kiku-Ichimonji and Masamune and Cecil's 3 Dark Blades in Final Fantasy IV were straight single blade swords similar in design to Edge's Katanas.
    Final Fantasy II first dark knight appereance... Leon.
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    Limecat Indignatio
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    I was thinking, maybe they could set up DRK to be heavily weighted for skill speed. Give it a stance that increases speed a lot, but at the same time changes skill costs from TP to maybe twice that number in HP.
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    Airget Lamh
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Dark Knight in a sense is about hatred, they could actually make it a part of Gladiator without removing the enmity from abilities and make that very enmity the catalyst for their dmg.

    Basically a Dark knight would be a job that excells better in longer battles rather than shorter ones but the idea would be that they build up enmity and then release it to dish out heavy dmg. Maybe have a mechanic that balances the amount of enmity they can shed at a given time so the more hatred they release the higher their base enmity is on target.

    So say everyone starts at 0 and let's just go with 100% as the enmity marking. Using x ability might cause an effect on DRK that gives them 15% base enmity that can't be shed on top of any other enmity they gain meaning when they hit 100% enmity they would only be able to tap into 85% of that enmity dmg and let's say the roof of it is 50% so by the time they use the ability in excess of 5-6 times they would have to hold back and allow that base enmity status effect to wear off. Of course they could add an ability that does that automatically removes that base enmity effect allowing them to tap into their heavy dmg again. But I do imagine DRK would work more as a enmity based dmg dealer since enmity=hates and DRK are all about hatred lol.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Watching the trailer again, I think the Batman "hint" was about how Derplander equip his DRG AF2 in the trailer. It is in a way how also Batman would equip his armor.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...CNzwinqlg#t=62
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-20-2014 at 04:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Yoshi-p said he adding a new Tank and Healer for 3.0. Wonder how many people going to be piss to fight out that Dark knight is a tank?
    they said multiple jobs, being 1 of multiple means it is likely we will see other DPS added as well and DRK could be one of those. the fans at Fan Fest tried to get them to give more hints and they refused

    Quote Originally Posted by Lufir View Post
    I'm confused on the confirmed stuff. So Dark Knight is confirmed? Healer and tank jobs are just expansion speculation?
    no no DRK was HINTED at not actually confirmed(the reactions of the panel up during that segment of the FFXIV Fan Festival gave confirmation that it is likely) Healer and Tank ARE Confirmed they said so many times for the expansion that MULTIPLE JOBS were planned for 3.0 including Healer and Tank.
    we know nothing about their idea of what DRK is for FFXIV. it could be a Tank, could be DPS. we won't know till they give us more information between now and next spring.
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 10-21-2014 at 03:10 PM.

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    Nerina Erodian
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I am going to make a bet. I'll call the Following.

    Lancer -> Templar (Tank)
    Soldier -> Dark Knight (DPS)
    Soldier -> Samurai (DPS)
    Musketeer -> Alchemist (Healer)

    The Soldierr Class would be somewhat Ishgard exclusive. Whereas Templar also will be an Ishgard Job and Musketeer will be in Limsa while Alchemist could be really anywhere. No starting as Soldier on a New Character (like Rogue) you would need to Hit level 10 or maybe even 30 or 40 (to compare to the Zones around Ishgard) to effectively Start the Soldier questline (lvl 30/40 ?).

    The Soldier would be a physical meele dps class with a Two Handed Sword and the 2 Jobs branching off it are Explained through the Storyline as the one who falls to darkness and magic (DoM - Dark Knight ?) or those Soldiers that wander off on a journey to become greater Swordmasters (Samurai).

    Templar would be some Kind of Holy Magic Tank based on the Lancer abilities (which now grant increased enmity).
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    Last edited by Valaskor; 10-21-2014 at 04:02 PM.

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    King Adunis
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Marauder > Dark Knight (dps)
    Musketeer > Chemist (heal)
    Musketeer > Gun Mage (dps)
    Spell Fencer > Samurai (tank)
    Spell Fencer > Red Mage (dps)
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