Are relic weapons ever going to be useful?

[Meier]

Guys get good. Everyone knows you can just farm T13 easily and get your dreadwrym i135 weapon in one go!

Get good to do that? Waste time? T13 is easy, but the gear goes obsolete too fast, making it pointless. What am I going to do with it..more T13? Please. It's boring. Until they fix the gear progression in this game I am done with 'raiding'

Not everyone likes to waste time, but thanks for offering, I guess?

[Felis]

Guys get good. Everyone knows you can just farm T13 easily and get your dreadwrym i135 weapon in one go!

I'm sure the 2.51 relict will be better than a dreadwyrm i135 weapon

[Prototype909]

Get good to do that? Waste time? T13 is easy, but the gear goes obsolete too fast, making it pointless. What am I going to do with it..more T13? Please. It's boring. Until they fix the gear progression in this game I am done with 'raiding'

Not everyone likes to waste time, but thanks for offering, I guess?

I'm fine with not wanting to do Coil, that's everyone's choice but I don't see how the Relic Questline is any different. You do a bunch of old, obsolete fights a few hundred times along with some other RNG or grind based mechanics and boom you have a weapon that was obsolete before it even came out. If you want long-term gear relevance you're playing the wrong game, gear in this game is relevant over the duration of a patch cycle - not the game's lifespan. Relic only surpasses "raid gear" when the Raid has been deemed to be aged content, like with Nexus vs. High Allagan Weapons in the previous patch cycle. Similarly you see the i110 to i115 upgrade in Shiva after Second Coil became even older than on Shiva's release.

Also you fail at understanding the person you were quoting was being incredibly sarcastic.

[FranSeara]

Makes me wonder why you play an MMO if you don't like playing with others. If you think they hold you back, when they potentially get you a better item than you could alone.

Oh...I just know this was coming "Why play a MMO" I love FF14. I hate the endgame Coil heads who think that everything gos thru coil. I love the feel and look of FF 14. I dont like the endgame crowd who hate everyone else. I play for fun. I dont find it fun to replay the same fight and hope and pray the RNG gods give me a weapon. I have 2.5 Nexus weapons. That good enough for me. I pay to play this game, so dont question me about how I choose to play. Mind you're bees wax. Oh, one more thing "You may never get a weapon from turn Whatever" Meanwhile I'll have to 3 higher end weapons to use and enjoy. Have fun in coil. Peace

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

What a pointless argument.

If you like coil for T13, go for it.
If you want to grind out the relic, go for it.

In the end, relic or no relic, the person who doesn't do coil, won't do it anyways.

It's there for the grind for people who don't like to raid. That's fine. If you don't want it, don't get it. Other people will.

[QiLymePye]

What a pointless argument.

If you like coil for T13, go for it.
If you want to grind out the relic, go for it.

In the end, relic or no relic, the person who doesn't do coil, won't do it anyways.

It's there for the grind for people who don't like to raid. That's fine. If you don't want it, don't get it. Other people will.

And also, both ways are grinding. Both ways you will fight the same enemies over and over whether you are fighting in coil or doing the same fates/dungeons over and over again to farm. I think what the issue with both sides is which is better suited for the time you put into the game. I got fed up with relic after farming one fate for a whole week for hours a day w/o drop. I haven't gotten past T5 because i haven't been able to find people to play it or stick around after failing once. But either way, if you want stronger weapons, these are the only two options.

Unfortunately, IMHO, i believe the relic quest is too long and too time consuming for the low pay out. I expect to have a pretty high lvl weapon that you cant top anywhere after finishing each step, but its not like that. The time i took trying to get atma, I could have maybe found people to play T5. They need to make it more interesting. Its a quest for crying out loud, it should have an awesome story on its own. Relic weapon? Why spend all that time to go on this ridiculous long quest to have my weapon surpassed by someone getting drops in a dungeon? Relic should be bad ass, shoot fire, collapse the sky, destroy other dimensions, something, not just some BS glow.

[Prototype909]

But either way, if you want stronger weapons, these are the only two options.

i110 - Shiva Weapon, Tome Weapon + Upgrade,
i115 - Shiva Weapon Upgrade

[QiLymePye]

i110 - Shiva Weapon, Tome Weapon + Upgrade,
i115 - Shiva Weapon Upgrade

Well yeah, primal fights also. Lol.

[QiLymePye]

See, what i think SE needs to do is make the relic worth grinding for. In most games, or even movies and anime and books, when you find the legendary weapon, relic weapon, etc...what makes that weapon supreme is that is has some sort of ability/magic/power that comes with it. Maybe they can make the relic quest like job quest. Getting relic and upgrading it to the different lvls gives you maybe a certain skill or ability or trait. And whatever that trait/power/skill/spell does changes with the change of the weapon. For ex. Artemis Bow. Maybe make it so as you upgrade it, you affect the way a certain skill or certain skills perform. So maybe getting Atma makes it so say 1% chance weapon skills do double dmg. Getting next upgrade maybe gives 1% chance that when bloodletter hits an enemy, chance to heal hp equivalent to dmg dealt....just ideas. need something to differentiate Relic weapon from other weapons besides a glow. make you want to think about the grind.

[Yumi_umi]

The 1st stage of relic was all about skill.
Everything after the initial make unfinished relic into relic was a grind fest/ rng based tasks.
Nothing required skill unless u call having the willpower to grind ur sanity out a skill.
Playing catch up on the relic will be almost pointless now as the expac is coming out soon, unless u r doing it for vanity which i doubt cuz ahem... There will be a lot more new and shiny omg weps to get/ glamour on.
I.e when was the last time u saw someone use the drgn ex rocket Popsicle spear? Or the ugly whm omnirod.