No Job Stone

[The_Last_Dragoon]

Learn how to tank before you tell others how to, there is no reason why you should spend all of tanking time in shield oath in hm/ex roulette content and if someone does they are a bad tank.

Yeah because you don't need it, higher DPS is a greater party contribution than mitigating damage that doesn't need to be mitigated.

[Rysir]

Yeah because you don't need it, higher DPS is a greater party contribution than mitigating damage that doesn't need to be mitigated.

And here we have the rare and endangered strong independent gladiator who dont need no job crystal...She will not survive the winter.

[Ashkendor]

Yeah because you don't need it, higher DPS is a greater party contribution than mitigating damage that doesn't need to be mitigated.

So... lumping all of the mobs into a big pile for the two i109 BLMs I typically run with to absolutely nuke into oblivion isn't a greater contribution to DPS than my non-sword-oath damage? That's news to me.

I'd hate to make a healer try to heal me through that without Shield Oath on.

I'd hate to try even attempting to hold hate through it.

[Ignnis]

So... lumping all of the mobs into a big pile for the two i109 BLMs I typically run with to absolutely nuke into oblivion isn't a greater contribution to DPS than my non-sword-oath damage? That's news to me.

I'd hate to make a healer try to heal me through that without Shield Oath on.

I'd hate to try even attempting to hold hate through it.

I had a GLD in Hullbreaker that used sword oath and the result was a tanking bard, half the trash pulls nibbling my leg and me being beaten to death by the first boss. Ive seen tanks that know what to do, have shield oath on for trash and sword oath sometimes on bosses (depends on the boss) but even with a tank that can play his/her class I still get sweaty palms and have vivid flash backs to my time as a gorilla punch bag.

[Exstal]

It's because they are stupid players. Nothing more, nothing less.

[SarcasmMisser]

You can do that in sword oath dude, and healing is a snooze on that level of content. Holding hate is easy.

And here we have the rare and endangered strong independent gladiator who dont need no job crystal...She will not survive the winter.

I never said go gladiator that isn't even a DPS gain vs using sword oath.

[Rysir]

You can do that in sword oath dude, and healing is a snooze on that level of content. Holding hate is easy.



I never said go gladiator that isn't even a DPS gain vs using sword oath.

Okay I'll go serious mode, the discussion is about the oddity of tanks not using job crystals while tanking so yeah.

[Edli]

Were they having problems with enmity?

[Garlyle]

Out of curiosity, are the ones you seeing actually doing the main tanking during these duties, or not?

If, for instance, me and a buddy are about to enter Titan HM as two tanks but we don't have a full group of 8, I'll go as MRD instead. He can main tank it just fine by himself, I really do not need anything that WAR gives me. Defiance is for when I'm actually being the tank, not when I'm basically just a DPS who tanks if everything goes horrifically wrong. Because I'm not using Defiance, none of the WAR abilities are useful at all. Being in MRD instead gives me access to several damage enhancing abilities I otherwise wouldn't have access to, and I can do what I need to do better - which is the deeps.

Now I can't say I'd do it just randomly for EX Primals or Turn 5+, but yeah.