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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Quote Originally Posted by dday3six View Post
    Egis are they size they are so they do interfere with the field of view for other players. Many players set party battle effects to show some, so they can still see Sacred Soil, but not other things. For instance, I'd have trouble in Turn 8 finding the sweet spot for Brainjack if the Black Mage's Blizzard 3 hits around the same time, were it not for that setting. If egis were bigger, referring still to the Turn 8 encounter., it might make the Homing Missle line harder to find, for example.

    I would also note that while Contagion should probably be a Summoner skill. (My vote would be to have it replace Tri-Disaster). Garuda is still likely to be favored simply because she avoids Boss Aoes by being at range.
    The problem with this argument is people want to use their Chocobo while in dungeons and Raids which will get in the way the same a towering Primal will becaue players will accidentally target them and not be able to see boss AoE.
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    River's Edge
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    The problem with this argument is people want to use their Chocobo while in dungeons and Raids which will get in the way the same a towering Primal will becaue players will accidentally target them and not be able to see boss AoE.
    Wanting Something, and it happening are completely different. If players get to use Chocobos in dungeons it will only be solo or 2 player dungeons. They will never get to use them in 8 man raids.
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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    SE should make the Egis 50% larger and add more detail to them so they look like smaller versions of the Primals. Also they should give the Egis Hard Mode Primal abilities in 3.0.
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    Magus Sinspotter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    SE should make the Egis 50% larger and add more detail to them so they look like smaller versions of the Primals. Also they should give the Egis Hard Mode Primal abilities in 3.0.
    No, they should stay small with a limited number of abilities with between 20-30% of dps
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    Hagen Sankrysse
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    Quote Originally Posted by dday3six View Post
    Egis are they size they are so they do interfere with the field of view for other players. Many players set party battle effects to show some, so they can still see Sacred Soil, but not other things. For instance, I'd have trouble in Turn 8 finding the sweet spot for Brainjack if the Black Mage's Blizzard 3 hits around the same time, were it not for that setting. If egis were bigger, referring still to the Turn 8 encounter., it might make the Homing Missle line harder to find, for example.
    By that logic we should also only party up with Lalafels because Roes are too big and clogger up space. Everyone just uses Garuda that stays out of range anyway, so screen would be fine. I somehow agree that too big would interfere with view, but the size they have on the trials really aren't big enough to do that. We are talking Gaolers/Ramuh's adds size here. Maybe a option to "simplify" egis could be added, in the same way you can turn off effects/shadows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagen View Post
    By that logic we should also only party up with Lalafels because Roes are too big and clogger up space. Everyone just uses Garuda that stays out of range anyway, so screen would be fine. I somehow agree that too big would interfere with view, but the size they have on the trials really aren't big enough to do that. We are talking Gaolers/Ramuh's adds size here. Maybe a option to "simplify" egis could be added, in the same way you can turn off effects/shadows.
    You ever done Turn 8? Most Summoners stack Garuda right with the party due to the mechanics of the fight. So unless other players have the option to make egis invisible which would hinder more than help. Making them larger is not really possible as it would force fights to be designed around making sure the egis are not going to block views.
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    While I agree that the summoner feels more like a DoT class with some pets thrown in, I do have to say that I am very happy with the current damage output and utility of the summoner. It may not be the class that we expect a summoner to be, but it is a very good class at this time.
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    A Highlander Hyur size summon wouldn't block anyone view.
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    Razard Baleth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    A Highlander Hyur size summon wouldn't block anyone view.
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    Tancard Wolf
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    A Highlander Hyur size summon wouldn't block anyone view.
    You've never walked into Revenant's Toil when all the Summoners gather there, or been in a FATE where everybody and their brother and chocobo shows up.
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