Coil Story mode in development.

[Brianmj]

But the story is the reward. Clearing T5 - you experience a story that has orders of magnitude more quality than anything else up to that point because it's difficult. "Oh no. Leviathan's going to make it rain! Warrior of Light, we beseech your succor once more." Now players want something they can steamroll just to view the story. Even with a story mode in development, and I hate to be part of this crowd, I'm still going to say it. Just YouTube it.

[Exstal]

But the story is the reward. Clearing T5 - you experience a story that has orders of magnitude more quality than anything else up to that point. "Oh no. Leviathan's going to make it rain! Warrior of Light, we beseech your succor once more." Now players want something they can steamroll just view the story. Even with a story mode in development, and I hate to be part of this crowd, I'm still going to say it. Just YouTube it.

Gear is the cake. Story is the candles.

If they removed the story altogether and placed it someone else, only a very small percentage of raiders would give a damn.

[Kiara]

I'm glad that the Dev Team is thinking of ways to allow casual players to experience The Binding Coil of Bahamut's Story, but I think spending Dev Time to create a whole new "mode" is a bit of a waste:

* Instead the flaw comes from the Dev Team's use of so many Insta-Kill Gimmicks and not building in hooks to LESSEN / REDUCE those Gimmicks for Casuals to progress.

The current Echo Buff by itself only helps in certain fights (where it's purely a DPS race).

Example:

* What "Echo" SHOULD BE, is a way to ease the fight for Casuals (and more players to get caught up), but not just a lazy "Increase Damage" Modifier:

* It should ease up Insta-Kill Mechanics: Change T5 Twintania's Twister from "Instant Death" to, say, "-50% Health".

* It should change the Outer Flame Walls from "Instant Death (9999)" to "-25% Health", etc. (So Divebombs won't instantly kill Casuals learning).

* Potentially just turn OFF certain Boss Attacks if need be.

Changes like these with the "New Echo Buff" would essentially achieve what Yoshi P was mentioning with a "Story Mode" Coil, but still retain *some* challenge still there.

Is there some coding involved? Sure. But I think if they develop future End Game Content with the proper code hooks so that "Instant Death" Mechanics could be changed to "Partial Damage", etc. would make it far more accessible, instead of just a flat "Damage Increase" which is what they were doing now.

[Hurlstone]

As someone who plays the game mostly for the lore, this sounds great! I always think there should be a balance of theses things, a lighter mode for those who just want to experience the story and a harder version with gear rewards etc for those playing for a challenge.

[RiceisNice]

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Reward for what? I wouldn't mind the story being the reward so much if it was something I could progress reliably on my own time or as a individual (main scenario, duty finder), but one of the biggest gates to clearing coil is finding 7 other individuals who can commit to progressing/clearing (or pay for a carry.) Especially if said story is important to connect the ties between 1.0 and 2.0. Again like I mentioned, telling people to youtube it is just sweeping it under the rug, you might as well tell players to stop paying for the game if youtube could cater to all their needs (and as a player, I don't want this, that means less "developmental" money going into the game for future content.) I personally leveled up my crafting classes for...their story. I was pleasantly surprised by how involved the CRP (my first 50) plot was with regards to the guildmaster and his relations with Garland. If I had just youtubed every other class quests, I wouldn't have spent part of my sub for this game, let alone putting effort to leveling the other classes.)

...plus it's just not the same when you don't see your personal character being a silent hero/foddler in the cut scene.

Wanting to experience the content is a different thing all together, but my stance still stands; if it doesn't change what I want to be able to experience (the current difficulty of SCoB), adding a story mode/lite version of coil does not impact my experience on the game, so why should I be bothered by other people being able to experience the story?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

so why should I be bothered by other people being able to experience the story?

Because everyone wants to be the one who "worked hard" for their content and don't want anyone else to get it easy. Why else would anyone be upset over the idea of Atmas being easier to obtain or cry that the Echo buff promotes "bad players"?

[RiceisNice]

Because everyone wants to be the one who "worked hard" for their content and don't want anyone else to get it easy. Why else would anyone be upset over the idea of Atmas being easier to obtain or cry that the Echo buff promotes "bad players"?

Honestly, it's their own fault if they let the idea of other players achieving lower/no rewards for working on easier content bother them. And that's the key though; if story/lite mode starts rewarding the same Ilvl gear or some other thing, then I have a problem with that. In the case of story, some people are already trivializing the importance of obtaining one by telling them to go youtube, why would you be bothered by them if they could just watch it ingame rather than from an upload?

And in the case of atma... people are already flinging heads left and right (at least my friend are...) with the absurd RNG. I've gotten my complete set in 2-3 months, another got it in 4 months, one is currently working into his first month, all the while someone in my old FC had finished it in a week or days, putting in less than half the cumulative time I took. Unless you really took great pride in being able to finish Atma (because or despite the time it took), a nerf/change to the RNG step isn't all that bad. They've indirectly nerfed the animus and novus steps with hunts saturating the game with tomes, yet there isn't (much) flames arising to that. It also has to do with the previous relic steps being incredibly outdated in Ilvl, a zenith can only get you so far now with UAT dropping like hotcakes, on top of some of it's steps being dated and outgeared (titan being the prime example).

And I doubt echo really encourages bad play as people try to make it out to be, when it doesn't really help beyond T5 (or titan HM for that matter...) other than speeding up the phases. Then again, I haven't seen a group that would intentionally jepordize an encounter to gain a stack of echo so...welp.

[LegendWait]

why would you be bothered by them if they could just watch it ingame rather than from an upload?

Waste of developper time and ressources.

This is an MMO, not a single player game, coordination with other players is expected to beat hard stuff.

Make, friends, get geared, commit to learn and deal with it.

Many as done it, why wouldn't you be able to? unless you are missing fingers on either hands, you have exactly all the same ressources to do this as everyone else.

Its like having the ruby and emeral weapons in ff7 just lay down dead because you cant beat it.

Again, this is an online MMO, you can't gameshark your way into victory.

Hardcore raids are not for everyone, just deal with it.

[Clavaat]

Its like having the ruby and emeral weapons in ff7 just lay down dead because you cant beat it.

Again, this is an online MMO, you can't gameshark your way into victory.

Use a single-player game as an example...then explain how you can't do things like a single player game. Post of the year right here.

Many as done it, why wouldn't you be able to? unless you are missing fingers on either hands, you have exactly all the same ressources to do this as everyone else.

Hardcore raids are not for everyone, just deal with it.

"You can do it." "It's not for you, you can't do it."

You can't be serious. Read everything you wrote and realize why it doesn't make any sense.

As far as developer time...obviously they felt they had the time. This isn't a debate, they're doing it. If it's database driven, this won't take that long to implement, but I don't pretend to know. Either way, it's not that serious of a commitment. There is actually no good argument about why this should not exist. The story was not the fucking reward, stop kidding yourself. The reward was the gear, which this won't have. It doesn't affect me as a raider in any way, shape or form. Stop pretending it does for you, no one's impressed.

[Metatronn]

Waste of developper time and ressources.

This is an MMO, not a single player game, coordination with other players is expected to beat hard stuff.

Make, friends, get geared, commit to learn and deal with it.

Many as done it, why wouldn't you be able to? unless you are missing fingers on either hands, you have exactly all the same ressources to do this as everyone else.

Its like having the ruby and emeral weapons in ff7 just lay down dead because you cant beat it.

Again, this is an online MMO, you can't gameshark your way into victory.

Hardcore raids are not for everyone, just deal with it.

No my lady, you and your eletist ass are the ones who shall deal with it. The story mode is coming and in the other patch ppl will get same Ilv gear as Final Coil. Deal with it.