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    They did this in Rift for the 20-man raids and made them 2 player instances (but a single geared player could solo them) and it was met with great success. I forget what those instances were called (chronicles?) and the bosses has similar mechanics but ofc vastly scaled down, just enough to get a general idea of the boss's theme. I could get behind that idea for this game as well, as long as it was a few months after the initial release of the content, after all thats part of the reward of raiding top tier coil
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    It's the same thing as WoW's LFR system. It will help players experience more content, but at the cost of a community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Because everyone wants to be the one who "worked hard" for their content and don't want anyone else to get it easy. Why else would anyone be upset over the idea of Atmas being easier to obtain or cry that the Echo buff promotes "bad players"?
    It's basically the casual vs. harecord player that's staple of every mmo. It all began with Trammel.
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    Please don't tell me this is a thing. Story is half the reward for your first clear and the fights only get easier per patch. You really should put the effort others do to enjoy the game. If you really don't want to put the effort in, that is what YouTube is for. It isn't part of the main scenario either. People pretend that the story cutscenes have no value and should be given for free when that really isn't the case.
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    lol @ the elitists. They say the story is part of the reward and everyone should work hard for it. Then in the same breath tell people to go watch it on youtube. Experiencing the story on youtube is even less work then going through a story mode.

    If the elitists are crying about a coil story mode, do they also cry about a Levi/Ramuh/Shiva HM that isn't as difficult as the extremes?


    I'm happy to put in the effort, but like others said, getting a consistent static is not easy for everyone due to real life obligations. I have a job, sometimes I am oncall. The time of day I am available varies from one day to the next. Maybe if I still lived in my parents basement and could play FFXIV 24/7 this wouldn't be a problem. For those of us that have responsibilities, it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brill_ View Post
    If the elitists are crying about a coil story mode, do they also cry about a Levi/Ramuh/Shiva HM that isn't as difficult as the extremes?
    No, but QQ'er casual players sure do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brill_ View Post
    lol @ the elitists. They say the story is part of the reward and everyone should work hard for it. Then in the same breath tell people to go watch it on youtube. Experiencing the story on youtube is even less work then going through a story mode.

    If the elitists are crying about a coil story mode, do they also cry about a Levi/Ramuh/Shiva HM that isn't as difficult as the extremes?


    I'm happy to put in the effort, but like others said, getting a consistent static is not easy for everyone due to real life obligations. I have a job, sometimes I am oncall. The time of day I am available varies from one day to the next. Maybe if I still lived in my parents basement and could play FFXIV 24/7 this wouldn't be a problem. For those of us that have responsibilities, it is.
    Then don't play a mmo which by default IS the most time consumming kind of online game. Oh and please don't say "but I like it".

    This is some sad news. That and 2.4 as it stand is also a joke. Hopin that when you clear the story mode you just don't have access to the next tier of Coils and still have to beat the normal turns.
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    Seriously, this is a dead horse. The whole casual vs. hardcore argument has been going on since Trammel was released. At some point, the more hardcore players are going to have to accept that by making a game more accessible, more players will play. Wildstar was aimed at the hardcore player and flopped. So long as the better rewards comes from running the raid proper, it will make no difference to a dedicated raider what type of story mode is implemented.
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    Sounds great. Coil 2 is fun, if more people get to experience it the more fun we'll all have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendWait View Post
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    Those are all bad analogies. Ffxiv is both an mmo and a numbered game, meaning it's in the main series. You've never had to do hardcore things to get the full story. The weapons are like full Coil raiding; challenges for the most dedicated players, but not necessary to play the full story.
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