Thread: So... No news in 2.4 ?

Nah, I was not the one calling out the invalidity of someone's 'true pvper' status. It is very legit to want to get rewarded from doing something that takes time and effort. I am not sure of any long-standing PvP games where there is not /some/ reward in it for the players, either through gear, vanity, titles, or whatever.

I love pvp, I consider myself a hardcore pvper. I am rank 40, no win-trading, what have you. Did I enjoy the gear that I unlocked as I PvPed? Yes, quite. Do I enjoy my horse mount? Yes, quite. I continued PvPing even after receiving rank 40 and receiving the gear I want, but now the amount of time that it takes to get into a PvP match (1-2+ hours) is not worth it for 3-30 minutes of PvP 'fun'. Do I want more rewards? Yes, I enjoy them. It gives others incentives to play, keeping queue times short. Do I consider myself 'not a real pvper'? No, not in the slightest.

Check your privilege.

You think Pvp is gonna get any better? People are still waiting for PvE to get better, and it's been 3 years.

other than the que time, and the inability to play frontlines with friends from other gc's i like pvp how it is.

Aren't they doin changes for 2.4 ? I ve read they are adjustin pvp stuff.

As far as i know, they will add Rank 50 with 2.4. Besides that i am sure they will nerf/buff some pvp skills. Not sure if they going to add new Gear for 41-50.

Edit: Maybe return of Cleric Stance.

First and foremost, agreed: PvP (specifically chasing down lalas when theyre at 1 hp and tickling them to death) is the reward within itself. Why I enjoyed ballista so much...only reward was seeing your name at the top of the leader board..kinda like the kills/dps charts here. The real problem though has nothing to do with rewarding or not. Simple fact is..the EU/NA pvp community simply isn't remotely as strong as the JP one regarding support/interest (who I'm guessing could just as easily do w/o rewards seeing how long ballista went on their servers vs NA ones) When a developer has to use baits, enticements to lure potential players who otherwise wouldn't have interests, he's only shooting himself in the foot to keep supplying them. If ya really like PvP, pack your bags, blow up your FC personal room, convert your gil to sellable goods, flip off all your friends to turn em into enemies, then jump to a JP srver lol. Problem solved.

I dont think that the devs are neglecting pvp, its just that they are trying to satisfy what is currently most wanted and lets face it, most people playing FFXIV are more interested in pve than pvp.
Thats not to say that we wont get good pvp stuff, that just means its not a priority, so we have to be patient.

I just recently got into frontlines, I wish the que times were better - I can already foresee the long and grueling grind to get any ranks past 20. Specially as a Immortal Fail, since wins are very very far and few between...

Originally Posted by tehomegaking

I'm nearly 50% win rate on flames since joining, they are much better than adders, granted storms are better... but you can't even play on storms due to queues. You must be very unlucky with your queue teams.

Thx for the encouragement. I was *this* close to swapping to mael but if the que times are even worse, then forget it, I can put up with the flames. I just feel like I try real hard and go nowhere, but that's probably how it is for any solo pug. I feel like we're constantly fighting Mael premades too, because they always seem to have the right amount of healers and whatnot, and they seem to coordinate a step above everyone else. Maybe your right about being unlucky, it does seem like Adders have there awful games too. My record is 6/15/16 right now, not sure why flames can't bring in those wins, but it is what it is.