Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 5 6 7 8 LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 71
  1. #61
    Player
    StarDrake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    205
    Character
    Yololo Yolo
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 83
    It's worth remembering that Varis is referred to as zos Galvus later on in the patch content. This pretty much confirms that zos is reserved for the sitting Emperor (and was perhaps the honorific for the old President/whatever of the former Garlean Republic?) and yae is for the royal family. Varis went from "yae" to "zos" on his ascension.

    "Sas", meanwhile... is something I would expound upon if I didn't have to go get dinner and then do some other things. :V Needless to say, I actually think there's more going on with "sas" than just being a lieutenant title. Take a good look again at the two most prominent people with "sas". What is their backstory, how do people treat them?
    (0)
    Always remember, please be careful.

  2. #62
    Player
    Deuxclydion's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    51
    Character
    Lecroia Furinax
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Endemerrin View Post
    Ferne had mentioned he'd try to get some information put together on this at some point, so there's always a possibility of it popping up unless they decide to reveal any significance to their naming conventions in-game through the story~

    In the mean time, the general consensus seems to be the following. Most seem very heavily implied or inferred. We do know that the surname prefix / middle name relates to their standing in Imperial society and/or their military (As was mentioned by Ferne in that post), so that makes things much easier to narrow down.


    Zos = Emperor
    Van = Legatus
    Tol = Tribunus Laticalvius
    Sas = Tribunus Angusticalvius
    Rem = Pilus prior
    Nan = Minister? Cid and his father had this prefix, and were both (grand) ministers of industry at one point. They were also both revered engineers in Imperial society, as well as members of the Imperial court, so it could be any number of things.
    Yae = This could be related to the royal family. It could also refer to the High Legatus, as that was the station Varis held prior to ascending to the throne.
    Lame heuristic insight: Titles beginning with letters later in the alphabet are of higher rank or prestige than titles beginning with letters earlier in the alphabet.
    (2)

  3. #63
    Player
    Synestr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Ul
    Posts
    853
    Character
    Synestr Ashbringer
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Man, I'll have to watch it again. BUt from what I got was that this successor is the younger nephew of the black wolf. I think. Ill watch again and report back.
    (0)

  4. #64
    Player
    Grayve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    593
    Character
    Kharagan Dotharl
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Nope, it's his grandson. Who fought his uncle, the previous emperors... son, or son in law.
    (2)

  5. #65
    Player
    Synestr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Ul
    Posts
    853
    Character
    Synestr Ashbringer
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Yea that's it!
    (0)

  6. #66
    Player
    Endemerrin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    487
    Character
    Sylve Lowen
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by StarDrake View Post
    "Sas", meanwhile... is something I would expound upon if I didn't have to go get dinner and then do some other things. :V Needless to say, I actually think there's more going on with "sas" than just being a lieutenant title. Take a good look again at the two most prominent people with "sas". What is their backstory, how do people treat them?
    The thought had briefly crossed my mind, but ultimately I believe Rhitatyn and Livia both shared the same rank, just not the specific title. Unless I'm mistaken, I think the tribunus laticlavius had five seperate tribuni angusticlavi serving underneath him, and the praefectus castrorum (Rhitatyn) was just a glorified tribunus angusticlavi with a little bit more responsibility in maintaining equipment and fortifications. Therefor, since they're both technically tribuni angusticlavi, they both are sas(sy).

    At the end of the day, Livia was likely a pureblood (Judging off her body structure, name, and equipment. Her helmet has the third eye glass, where as Rhitatyn does not.), where as Rhitatyn was a Roegadyn. That alone would give Livia much less of a struggle in Imperial society I'd imagine, despite being orphaned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuxclydion View Post
    Lame heuristic insight: Titles beginning with letters later in the alphabet are of higher rank or prestige than titles beginning with letters earlier in the alphabet.
    I like this. I like this a lot, haha. Might very well refer to military ranking specifically, which would explain why Cid and his father would be higher up in the alphabet despite being significant figures in the empire. Seeing as van equates to Legatus, yae seeming to equate to High Legatus, and zos quite clearly referring to the emperor, I think you might be on to something~
    (0)

  7. #67
    Player
    Balipu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    2,084
    Character
    Tea Mysidia
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deuxclydion View Post
    Lame heuristic insight: Titles beginning with letters later in the alphabet are of higher rank or prestige than titles beginning with letters earlier in the alphabet.
    Works as far as zos, but deus is the highest rank.
    (0)

  8. #68
    Player
    RickiFake02's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    179
    Character
    Tarii'to Shiruba
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Pretty sure he's dead, since we saw his grandson spit on his coffin and all.
    (0)

  9. #69
    Player
    Alenore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    439
    Character
    Alenore Llohen
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Works as far as zos, but deus is the highest rank.
    So you think being empowered by a Dragon-primal gives Nael an actual rank in the army?
    Deus only served to say he had god-like power =p
    (6)

  10. #70
    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,966
    Character
    Kai Magnus
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alenore View Post
    So you think being empowered by a Dragon-primal gives Nael an actual rank in the army?
    Deus only served to say he had god-like power =p
    True. The fact that Nael was tempered by Bahamut the elder primal (Or elder eikon as the garlens may call them) would actually strip Nael of any credibility since Eikons are the equivelent of false gods to the Garlen Empire. So god like power or not, being tempered was a display of weekness. Especially since Nael was also a pure blooded Legautus from a Nobel blood line. Getting tempered would be disgraceful.
    (1)

Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 5 6 7 8 LastLast