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[Tempestmoon]

To help with crafting botting I think they should just put in a validation, similar to what websites do to make sure there is a person at the keyboard.

Instead of selecting finnish at the end of a synth, bring up a combination of 4 random characters you have to type in to actually get the synth completed.

Up down up down X O Start!

Give you a 10 second time limit to put it in.

you fail, you lose the synth, I know this does not stop other forms of botting, but every element helps.

[DoubleEcho]

To help with crafting botting I think they should just put in a validation, similar to what websites do to make sure there is a person at the keyboard.

Instead of selecting finnish at the end of a synth, bring up a combination of 4 random characters you have to type in to actually get the synth completed.

Up down up down X O Start!

Give you a 10 second time limit to put it in.

you fail, you lose the synth, I know this does not stop other forms of botting, but every element helps.

So make crafting more painful for legitimate people? Take a moment and think about how frustrating it would be for someone to have to type 4 random characters every synth for almost 300 synths (what it takes for 49-50 roughtly). What about people that use a keyboard only?

Crafting is tedious enough now as it is. Don't hurt legitimate players to combat botters.

[Tempestmoon]

That is the excuse everyone gives. But something needs to be done. It's the legitimate players that want things fixed, but you're not willing to accept anything that would mean an increase in keystrokes? Compared to XI, crafting is already pretty tedious to Legitimate players. It's involving. So stream line the current process, remove unnecessary confirmations and implement this idea, it would be even fast for crafters, not more tedious.

current process,

pick synth from the main menu,
click Recipes,
select recipe
click main hand,
click select
go through crafting process
click Finnish

possible process

Click synth from menu
click recipe /w main hand or off hand (small two option pop up)
go through synth process
type in 4 random char's provided

edit: (can be only directional and generic keys like up,down,left,right, selection key, or, have a setting in game that identifies who is using keyboard or controler to expand keys/buttons according.)


looks easier for "Legitimate players" to me, Sure you won't be able to watch movies while crafting, but why are you even playing a game you are not paying attention to anyway?

[DoubleEcho]

That is the excuse everyone gives. But something needs to be done. It's the legitimate players that want things fixed, but you're not willing to accept anything that would mean an increase in keystrokes? Compared to XI, crafting is already pretty tedious to Legitimate players. It's involving. So stream line the current process, remove unnecessary confirmations and implement this idea, it would be even fast for crafters, not more tedious.

current process,

pick synth from the main menu,
click Recipes,
select recipe
click main hand,
click select
go through crafting process
click Finnish

possible process

Click synth from menu
click recipe /w main hand or off hand (small two option pop up)
go through synth process
type in 4 random char's provided


looks easier for "Legitimate players" to me, Sure you won't be able to watch movies while crafting, but why are you even playing a game you are not paying attention to anyway?

You have only 1 crafting job at above R20, the rest aren't even close to R20 and you haven't even touched 3 of them. You have yet to experience the hellgrind that is 40-50.

Come back to this thread after you've done that and then tell me how great of an idea this is. The problem with your idea is that you speak from theory and not experience.

[Tempestmoon]

Does not matter if I had 1 synth or a million synths and all the crafting classes at 50 It's the same process. Just repeated. My idea is faster per synth, regardless of what level, or rank you are.

Why does everyone revert to attacking experience and Rank when they don't like someones idea?

[DoubleEcho]

Does not matter if I had 1 synth or a million synths and all the crafting classes at 50 It's the same process. Just repeated. My idea is faster per synth, regardless of what level, or rank you are.

Why does everyone revert to attacking experience and Rank when they don't like someones idea?

Because you don't know what you're talking about, basically. You're proposing an idea that actually makes it more of a grind to obtain ranks, when you haven't even gone through from 1-50 on a craft and experienced that grind in the first place.

Let's leave it at this - go post a thread and propose this idea with a poll. I'd be very interested to see how many people who actually craft like this idea.

[Tempestmoon]

Well maybe i will, and hopefully the rest of the community is not as close minded as you.

[Xenor]

You have only 1 crafting job at above R20, the rest aren't even close to R20 and you haven't even touched 3 of them. You have yet to experience the hellgrind that is 40-50.

What hell grind? I've took my BSM from 39.5 to 5k from 44 in the past two weeks doing nothing but leves, and that's with only taking 40+ BSM leves and using the rest on ARM. Took my ARM 36 to 38 since then too. Grinding crafts is a thing of the past.

[DoubleEcho]

What hell grind? I've took my BSM from 39.5 to 5k from 44 in the past two weeks doing nothing but leves, and that's with only taking 40+ BSM leves and using the rest on ARM. Took my ARM 36 to 38 since then too. Grinding crafts is a thing of the past.

40-50 is just a little more than what it takes to get to 1-39 combined. 48-49 and 49-50 is (depending on the class as some get better recipes) about 300 completed synths each rank. It's certainly not something that's fun, but adding some kind of captcha type requirement after each completed synth wouldn't make it any better.

[DeadRiser]

To help with crafting botting I think they should just put in a validation, similar to what websites do to make sure there is a person at the keyboard.

Instead of selecting finnish at the end of a synth, bring up a combination of 4 random characters you have to type in to actually get the synth completed.

Up down up down X O Start!

Give you a 10 second time limit to put it in.

you fail, you lose the synth, I know this does not stop other forms of botting, but every element helps.

I think this is a great idea! Propose it on the forums itself if you haven't already. It would definately make the botting experience that much harder.

Don't listen to the other guy. I synth is a synth, just like grinding on mobs. The button combination shouldn't be long but like as you finish the synthesis, to complete it you have to type in the letter to finish. One or the other would be perfect. It's not that bad plus I think it's a great trade.