Coil Lite Please

[Gardes]

Read a book.

Or play bioware games. Hepler would welcome you with glee.

[Anemone_Valesti]

It is accessible to everyone, theres only yourself stopping you from putting some effort in finding or creating a party for it.

If posters put as much effort into pro-actively trying to organise parties for coil as they do on the forums we wouldn't see these kinds of posts.

Not to mention developing patience and realise that it takes some time to learn the encounters, after that, they are pretty easy.

Truth without Toxicity. After reading this whole thread I never thought I would see such a thing.

Im on each and everyday doing things, and throughout the course of each day I see no more than 20 Parties on Party finder at any given time (On Balmung, a Legacy Server whose Population is 80847 I believe. I know unofficial RP Server, but all that cant only be Rpers...oh and Rpers raid too). A good Portion of you can say it's Elitist or Jerks not showing Patience, but they can easily say you're not advancing because you're not taking ANY Initiative. The Same is with Hunt Parties...Every single time an S Rank Pops, you get a Flood in Shout Chat asking for Parties instead of taking a second to Create a Party in Party finder...Then alot of those people miss out on full Credit and have literally no one to blame but themselves. What Im getting at with the example is...get over your hurt feelings, Pride, etc and take the initiative to get things done. There are jerks everywhere (Truth) because every single human being possess the potential to be the douche of all douche bags. You have individuals doing it on a daily basis, but they are not to blame why you're not Progressing. There are others in your shoes, and even better, individuals who have progressed but dont mind coming back to help you Progress. People are not wrong when they tell you there are Linkshells and FCs out there. You're not going to though unless you take the Initiative. Everyone is not going to move at the same rate as you, So its up to you to find those who will. It " MIGHT " Take awhile, but keep at it and you'll find them...they are everywhere.

I don't say this to be hurtful or assault any individual or group, and If I have then I apologize. With that being said, onto the main discussion of the thread.

It wouldn't hurt at all to have a Coil Story Mode (No Item/Gil Reward). I don't think it's necessary...but I dont think having something of that nature would hurt any player or take anything from the players who completed Normal/Savage Coils.

[Numenor1379]

How many of those people have completed the main story quest and dinged 50? It's a useless statistic if it includes literally everyone who bought the game and put it in their playstation at some point.

Edit: I don't know where you are pulling those numbers from but here is something from a quick google search

http://psnprofiles.com/trophies/2096...A-Realm-Reborn

So according to this, which is just a sample of players judging from the numbers, 8.14% have cleared T5, but only 34.16% have cleared the game. So actually out of the people who actually get to end game the number who clear T5 approaches 25%, and only counting a sample of console players. You really need to factor in that many people buy a game and just play it for the free sub.

The numbers were pulled from my Trophy list on my PSN account. You are right that the 7.4% doesn't tell the whole story, at the time that was the only number I had. After some more digging, the number of players who have cleared the 2.0 story (according to my data at least) is just over 27% on PSN. So that agrees roughly with your data as well.

Figure 25% of PSN players who have access to First Coil have finished it. That number isn't too bad... sorta, but it still leaves 75% of the population out. That isn't good. Frankly I would love to know the numbers for Second Coil.

[Heskett]

People can have their story mode Coil, I frankly don't care. At the very least, for Coil and all future raids, these story mode variants should be added after a significant time has passed. Three patches (9-10 months) sounds good to me.

[MicahZerrshia]

Frankly this game hands everything out like candy and makes the ease of completing quests and endgame amazingly simple.

Let's look at this reasonably for a moment.

The only real roadblock for players are the players themselves. With them nerfing content every three months, giving the echo and so on there is little reason for ppl not to complete content other than they themselves do not want to put any effort into it at all or they have such busy real lives that an mmo doesn't fit.

On Sargatanas there are threads and pf groups up quite often with learning parties and groups looking for raiders. We even are forming groups in our fc for those who still need coil1, ex, ct/st, and soon scob. Sure sometimes its like slamming your head into a wall learning the content, but even the hardcore raiders had to do the same thing and with the ease of access to i100-i110 gears there is little reason outside being a new player to not be geared to the teeth this long after i100+ gear was released. If your personal schedule only allows you to play a game from 7-8:15pm on mon wed and sat, than that is your personal schedule and you could try to get into a group in that time but its silly to expect SE to change their entire game design for it. That's when you may have to come to terms with an mmo just not fitting in with your life atm and maybe want to look to more single player games for fulfillment. It stinks but sometimes life gets in the way of a lot of things you enjoy but not everything can be changed because of it.

When it comes to content like coil and if you do not have super heavy restrictions to your schedule that are not conducive with an mmo the only roadblock is you. Advertise what jobs you have, when you are available and what you are looking for. There is little reason outside of a bad attitude for you not to find a group if you do not have personal roadblocks.

When it comes to things like story completion, well that is all on you. The main scenario/class quests are so incredibly simple they can be breezed thru and yes you may have to wait on a party to complete a dungeon but there are other things you can do while you wait. Lvl another class, craft, gather, finish other quests...its an mmo there are a mountain of things to do. If you are so hell bent on coil, make some time for it and understand you are not going to get a win your first few tries.

And do not expect other ppl to do things for you. I just had a couple ppl rage quit my fc because I was not setting up learning pts for them, I was not helping them get thru content, I was not doing this or that for them while working around their restrictive schedules but they did nothing on their own. They just expected daddy fc leader to do all the hard work for them and got upset when I stopped even trying to make them happy. The most hilarious part was they were upset I was further along then they are because they expect me to put aside my progression and not do any scob until they were caught up. Sorry baby needs a bottle and I'm not heating one up. I had a raid for them, had to leave to go home for my fathers final few days and then his funeral and they let it fall apart because no one wanted to step up. They are still stuck because they did not want to put any effort into it themselves. They would literally log in and go afk for hrs while I was supposed to put stuff together for them. Nope. A fc leader cannot do it all, that's why ppl in the fc need to step up and take leadership roles... But oh my I am tangenting, lets get back on the subject at hand.

If everyone was able to get wins so easily, there wouldn't be a reason to play at all. And believe me, after trying and trying and trying to get a win when you finally do the feeling is amazing, even if its just one of relief.

You could literally put just a handful of hours a week into this game and still be on par with the heaviest of raiders. That is the problem here.

[Miitan]

That number isn't too bad... sorta, but it still leaves 75% of the population out. That isn't good. Frankly I would love to know the numbers for Second Coil.

Now how many of that 75% actually want to do Coil? Nothing is ever clear-cut unfortunately.

[Exstal]

Figure 25% of PSN players who have access to First Coil have finished it. That number isn't too bad... sorta, but it still leaves 75% of the population out. That isn't good. Frankly I would love to know the numbers for Second Coil.

I think that's fine though. If 100% of the playerbase can finished what is supposed to be the most bone crushing content in the game...your game is too easy and as a result you'll alienate all hardcore raiders and any prospective hardcore raiders. At the same time, casuals (raiders or not) will beat everything and have nothing interesting to do thus moving onto a new game altogether.

That carrot always has to be there...the stick can't be too long in some cases. Naoki stated they are happy with current BC:T5 clear percentages, and they'll likely review SC:T4 clears in a few month's time. They also did say they are thinking about a story mode version when the playerbase is more or less passed the earlier raids and there just won't be anyone doing them.

[Sholah]

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This whole post. Yes. Stop expecting things to get handed to you. Go out and work to get it done if you want it so badly.

[polyhedral]

The only real roadblock for players are the players themselves.

If everyone was able to get wins so easily, there wouldn't be a reason to play at all.

Okay, I'll never play Skee-Ball again, because so many others are winning tickets with it!??!?


Why would they want to stay in your FC the way you're talking about them now? Like you weren't thinking the same way when they were in your FC??? Do you expect us to take your word as being 100% the truth of the matter here? Your harsh towards your own family ffs.

I do not agree that the only roadblocks are the players themselves. I think you've made a roadblock for others yourself in your own FC imho.

[Exstal]

Why would they want to stay in your FC the way you're talking about them now? Like you weren't thinking the same way when they were in your FC??? Do you expect us to take your word as being 100% the truth of the matter here? Your harsh towards your own family ffs.

I do not agree that the only roadblocks are the players themselves. I think you've made a roadblock for others yourself in your own FC imho.

Not only is there no reason for him to lie in this thread, in which he is the underdog, it's the common mentality of players in every game in this genre.