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    Zaiken's Avatar
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    What I don't like about Coil is that everything is base on Boss percentage of what HP it does something and it one shot mechanic. It all scripted, and if everyone don't executed correctly, it's a wipe. So Echo Buff does not help with old contents and the one shot mechanic. Reason why people still stuck on Turn 5. Turn 5, 6, 7 is an example having more DPS is actually bad and push phrase.
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    Leyna Crosse
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    There is more to this than just elitism or learning a fight. Is it really so bad to make a story-line only version with no rewards? I'd like to know the REAL reason why some of these people are so against letting new players or casual players SEE the story too, even if there is no other reward for doing it. They don't seem to care if someone gets the lvl 20 Ifrit story mode done, so why would they care if someone were to get a Coil-story mode done?
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    There is more to this than just elitism or learning a fight. Is it really so bad to make a story-line only version with no rewards? I'd like to know the REAL reason why some of these people are so against letting new players or casual players SEE the story too, even if there is no other reward for doing it. They don't seem to care if someone gets the lvl 20 Ifrit story mode done, so why would they care if someone were to get a Coil-story mode done?
    There shouldn't be a story behind Coil. Then there is no reason to have Coil lite. Here's to hoping they don't make the same mistake in 3.0 and thus saving us the trouble of all these threads popping up again and again..and again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    There shouldn't be a story behind Coil. Then there is no reason to have Coil lite. Here's to hoping they don't make the same mistake in 3.0 and thus saving us the trouble of all these threads popping up again and again..and again.
    Except the problem is that there IS a story behind them. A rather massive one given how they explaned the change between 1.0 and 2.0. That simple fact means that for Coil there SHOULD be some Story version that players can do to see the story unfold. Locking it behind high level raiding is wrong. *Disclaimer* I am on T9 myself right now, so don't think this is me wanting a handout because I can't beat Twin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    There shouldn't be a story behind Coil. Then there is no reason to have Coil lite. Here's to hoping they don't make the same mistake in 3.0 and thus saving us the trouble of all these threads popping up again and again..and again.
    Take away the story from future raids and they will find something else to complain about. Like not receiving equal Ilevel gear by doing some roulettes to cap weekly.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Is this really a problem? Seems like a small minority hasn't beat T5 which is the casual only play like a 1-2 hours a week type player. Yoshi P originally planned for the echo buff to go up to 30% but he stopped at 20% because they said they were happy with the number of people clearing T5 that they didn't need to make it any easier.
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    Abel Ballad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Is this really a problem? Seems like a small minority hasn't beat T5 which is the casual only play like a 1-2 hours a week type player. Yoshi P originally planned for the echo buff to go up to 30% but he stopped at 20% because they said they were happy with the number of people clearing T5 that they didn't need to make it any easier.
    I hope theyre also happy with ppl who left the game cause they cant stand being bash by eletists while waiting to experience the history.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metatronn View Post
    I hope theyre also happy with ppl who left the game cause they cant stand being bash by eletists while waiting to experience the history.
    If someone is an elite player they for sure will not be doing T5. Elite players are done with 2nd coil in an hour on Tuesday and pretty much don't need to log in the rest of the week and sure wouldn't be found farming T5. Most of the people trying to do T5 are the casual ones who have not cleared it, so you really only have to blame other casuals for being rude if people are being rude in T5 DF.
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    Last edited by Zumi; 10-17-2014 at 03:46 PM.

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    Cecille Lightfellow
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    Why don't SE just hand out the story cutscene on the inn for player whose not really into scob. But only make it so after a certain percentage of server population had clear the contents needed to unlock the cutscene. That way nobody will be left out. The raiders can get their gear and the casuals can get their story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruenis View Post
    Why don't SE just hand out the story cutscene on the inn for player whose not really into scob. But only make it so after a certain percentage of server population had clear the contents needed to unlock the cutscene. That way nobody will be left out. The raiders can get their gear and the casuals can get their story.


    You've totally missed the point of the OP. Figures since you're the type to call people casuals like were a sub species of player or something.
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