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  1. #121
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Here is how dungeon works on a MMO:



    Give some time, and your T5 will be no more than Sastasha today.
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  2. #122
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnus View Post
    I *AM* Jealous. Because I Know I have the ability to clear SCoB, but I simply cant because of the people on my server that don't give me the time or day to at least FRIGGIN TRY the damn content.
    I have great news in 2 weeks we will be glad to take you for an affordable sum of gil. Way cheaper than current prices!
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  3. #123
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    Psychosamm's Avatar
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    Kaya Solimar
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    There is an easy mode coil for storyline. It's called YouTube.

    As far as being able to clear it to get to the next coil, until you can beat it with echo, you really don't need to be in the next coil. Coil is the one thing hardcore players have, let them have it.
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    Last edited by Psychosamm; 10-18-2014 at 12:44 AM.

  4. #124
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    mero-ix's Avatar
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    Luna'li Sky
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    Seraph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevia View Post
    You're not helping people by giving them an easier content. It's quite the opposite to be honest. If you do that they'll just wait over and over patches to clear content that they can't currently clear and make any efforts.
    I agree. I didn't properly learn how to play my job until T4 and T5. They forced you to up your game because you had such strict timers to kill stuff. T5 teaches you a lot of things to help you through SCoB, like watching cast bars and handling mechanics individually. When you have people being helped through first Coil with echo/high lvl gear/friends to carry them through it, they don't learn these things. So you get a bunch of players having a harder time with SCoB because suddenly everything is MUCH harder for them than it is for those who suffered through first Coil. So they'll wait for 2.4 so they can have their hand held through SCoB too and then complain even more because the final Coil will kick their ass. Making content easier does not help people improve, it only helps them catch up, but what's the point if they then can't down the new content anyway because they didn't learn anything?
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    Last edited by mero-ix; 10-18-2014 at 02:36 AM.

  5. #125
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    Parz3val's Avatar
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    King Adunis
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'm not saying they erase the mechanics, just ease up on one-shots & the like.

    People will still learn, and it'll actually be a good step toward graduation to Normal Mode.

    Sure, not everyone will 'want to graduate', but enough will for the gear at least.

    Chances are that many of those people that still struggle on t5 have practically hit their MMO skill-cap anyway (don't mean this to be rude, frankly it'll be a fact in many cases & not true of everyone).

    So let them have the story & the feeling of accomplishment even if it's an easier tier.
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  6. #126
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    -Khiiral-'s Avatar
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    Jun Pei
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Then there is no point in going further in, it only gets harder.
    And as said earlier, content has already been nerfed like crazy, it's just as hard as Titan HM nowadays.

    People just need to pay attention more in fight, maybe use a vocal communication device and get one person to call every mechanics to ease it on others.

    But don't worry, it's more than doable now, get to work.
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  7. #127
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Leviathan
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    People better hope they discover a way to cheese turn 7 or nobody is gonna farm it. Echo will only make things worse.
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  8. #128
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    Sora Burakku
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    Don't nerf Coil content until after 3.0 comes out and there is a replacement. This is coming from someone who has not even been able to do coil yet because it is difficult and I would benefit greatly from the suggestions in the OP.

    OP: I like your ideas and hope they get implemented, but now is not the time. Also, i'm pretty sure they already have plans to do what you are asking for.
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  9. #129
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    Meier Michaelis
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sholah View Post
    Literally everything in this game aside from Coil is built for the most casual of players. Hardcore players get one thing to work towards, and you can't handle that?
    The only thing 'hardcore' about coil is finding 7 others who can meet up at the same time, then have 8 synchronized people who can fight a script. Totes hardcore. I fall asleep farming coil.
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  10. #130
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    Soube Miseux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    It's pretty clear to me that a lot of people here have no idea how many players haven't even cleared T5 yet. I've been trying to get the clear for my alt and there are so many people who are still brick walled by twintania.
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