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  1. #21
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    FJerome's Avatar
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    Edhe'li Merwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimGoodacre View Post
    The question is "useless for what?". I really enjoy crafting. I probably do more of it than anything else in the game. It is an aspect of the game in its own right with its own progression challenges and stands on its own feet, as well as being very supportive of other aspects of the game.
    This.

    I think to a degree the highest tiers of crafting, like the Primal Weapons, are a bit like Savage Coil. There's no particular reason you'd want to be able to make them other than you want to be able to say you can make them ... but some of us do want just that because this is our chosen progression path.
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    Genz Kawakami
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    White Mage Lv 100
    useless for what?
    Useless in making the game feel complete. The way it is and the way you're describing it, crafting looks like another game accidentally stuck to FFXIV.

    That being said, it's not the fault of crafting-aspect. It will be able to shine only if the battle-aspect of the game opens itself.
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  3. #23
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    The highest ilvl crafted battle gear is twenty or more levels lower than the highest ilvl available gear, and that is likely never to change. This was a deliberate move on SE's part both to combat RMT and to ensure that players couldn't buy their way into endgame-level gear with gil. So, if you believe the only worth in the game comes from obtaininig high level gear, then yes, crafting is useless.

    Crafting, though, is the primary source for Glamour items, HQ consumables, Housing furnishings, and convertable equipment. You don't NEED to have a house, but if you have one, you're probably not going to want to leave it completely barren. Crafting can help you there. You don't NEED to glamour your gear, but if you love the stats but hate the look of the gear you wear, Glamour can be a godsend. Crafting can help you there. You don't NEED food or potions, but you won't be taken seriously for a lot of endgame activites unless you have it. Crafting can help you there. You don't NEED a relic weapon, there are plenty of alternatives available, but if you do make one you're going to need a lot of Materia for your Novus weapon. Crafting can help you there.

    And, of course, if you're a Crafter or Gatherer, nearly all of your gear is crafted and will require a lot of Materia. Crafting can help you there.
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Nofacekiller View Post
    I heard crafting is useless? Are there any plans to make it more useful? Perhaps similar to what World of Warcraft or FFXI have done?
    Around 500k to 1 million gil a day....yeah its useless

    New recipes coming in for Rouge...yeah its useless
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    Last edited by Sartori; 10-17-2014 at 10:42 PM.

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    Apollo Dioscuri
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    It's like people forget that every coil patch all the gillionaires start pentamelding new crafted gear as an early upgrade to their same-but-inferior ilvl gear.
    Even then it's just out of reach for most players. If you want crafted gear to be more prevalent then first crafters have to be willing to take a huge hit to the gear value and prices, and let's not even start on materia prices and the PITA that is spiritbonding (especially without holy).
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  6. #26
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    Meier Michaelis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    I guess it's useless if you consider being filthy stinking rich (in-game) is useless.
    It is. There is nothing game breaking you can buy with gil.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoeila View Post
    in FFXI every player was considered gimp for not having food. here food is useless in comparison and most wont care if you dont have food.
    Think of food as an extra (custom) accessory, just with VIT instead of your main stat. It's a small increase yes, but it's far from "useless".
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  8. #28
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    Odintius Baelsar
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    I've leveled most my crafts to repair my gear at one point I'd thought it would be useful thing for putting materia in end game gear but that sorely a disappointment with current materia system. Materia/Craft gear will be only be playing catch up mode indefinitely after each patch all because of SE over fear of RMT's sadly. The most I use gil for is teleports know beyond that gil isn't even worth the effort to achieve millions know it for people just for show at this point in the game it has very little meaning to it besides getting a large house and decorate it maybe woooh /softclap.
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  9. #29
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    I'd say it's more useful than those 2 games.
    You certainly never played FFXI, especially prior to the 99 cap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoeila View Post
    in FFXI every player was considered gimp for not having food. here food is useless in comparison and most wont care if you dont have food.
    He never played XI as far as I can tell, as back in 75 cap, some standard gear was crafted, e.g sniper rings, haubergeon, scorpion harness, certain weapons (like Blue Mage's non R/E alternative swords), leveling up crafted gear was extremely valuable and so on.

    Crafting in XIV is useless in terms of progression as dungeon drops 15-45 drop HQ+Additional stat versions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meier View Post
    It is. There is nothing game breaking you can buy with gil.
    Well, there's nothing game breaking in the game. :X
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