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    All the things people mention above. The question is "useless for what?". I really enjoy crafting. I probably do more of it than anything else in the game. It is an aspect of the game in its own right with its own progression challenges and stands on its own feet, as well as being very supportive of other aspects of the game. Perhaps people who like only crafting (and I know a couple) think that dungeons are "useless" or hunts are "useless" except for the loot they drop for crafters. Just thinking aloud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimGoodacre View Post
    The question is "useless for what?". I really enjoy crafting. I probably do more of it than anything else in the game. It is an aspect of the game in its own right with its own progression challenges and stands on its own feet, as well as being very supportive of other aspects of the game.
    This.

    I think to a degree the highest tiers of crafting, like the Primal Weapons, are a bit like Savage Coil. There's no particular reason you'd want to be able to make them other than you want to be able to say you can make them ... but some of us do want just that because this is our chosen progression path.
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    I heard gil is useless too @@:

    (smart) crafters are rich
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    It all depends on what you consider valuable.

    If you're only interested in BiS PvE progression and gearing, then bothering with anything to do with crafting is almost pointless outside of stat potions and food buffs.

    The moment you start wanting to do anything else - anything to do with vanity, maximizing PvP gear, etc - crafting starts becoming important.
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    For example, in World of Warcraft, all professions can contribute to BiS stats at end-game. Most of the time it's not through actual pieces themselves, but for example Tailoring (ClothCrafting) can form threads that when applied to your leg slot augment them and increase their stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nofacekiller View Post
    For example, in World of Warcraft, all professions can contribute to BiS stats at end-game. Most of the time it's not through actual pieces themselves, but for example Tailoring (ClothCrafting) can form threads that when applied to your leg slot augment them and increase their stats.
    Keep in mind that this is an MMO where everyone can literally do everything. I shudder to think what would happen if each crafting class gave it's own sort of boost to your gear and basically required everyone who wanted to do Coil to level up their crafting classes to the max and then proceed to gear them just so that they can have the best possible chance to complete a turn. It would be a new age where the common PF requirement would be "Full 5-meld gear with all craft boosts"

    There's a reason why you can't meld materia into gear you get from dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    Keep in mind that this is an MMO where everyone can literally do everything. I shudder to think what would happen if each crafting class gave it's own sort of boost to your gear and basically required everyone who wanted to do Coil to level up their crafting classes to the max and then proceed to gear them just so that they can have the best possible chance to complete a turn. It would be a new age where the common PF requirement would be "Full 5-meld gear with all craft boosts"

    There's a reason why you can't meld materia into gear you get from dungeons.
    Well, in WoW, the item enchantments are able to be sold on the auction house (their equivalent of the market board). And so many people craft that the prices are actually quite reasonable.
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    I will havet o ask the same question most some other ppl asked.
    What do you mean by useless?
    I kinda think fighting gear is useless because they keep putting in new gear all the time so after 3 months we get better gear for free
    But I don't find the vanity items we can craft useless cause they will stay the same for eeeveeeer

    Then there is food and potions they are always nice


    Quote Originally Posted by Zoeila View Post
    in FFXI every player was considered gimp for not having food. here food is useless in comparison and most wont care if you dont have food.
    I think that is cause SE makes the dungeons/ST/CT too easy
    But when I have done ex trials most people do use food buffs. Now its not neccessary though cause of echo.
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    useless for what?
    Useless in making the game feel complete. The way it is and the way you're describing it, crafting looks like another game accidentally stuck to FFXIV.

    That being said, it's not the fault of crafting-aspect. It will be able to shine only if the battle-aspect of the game opens itself.
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    The highest ilvl crafted battle gear is twenty or more levels lower than the highest ilvl available gear, and that is likely never to change. This was a deliberate move on SE's part both to combat RMT and to ensure that players couldn't buy their way into endgame-level gear with gil. So, if you believe the only worth in the game comes from obtaininig high level gear, then yes, crafting is useless.

    Crafting, though, is the primary source for Glamour items, HQ consumables, Housing furnishings, and convertable equipment. You don't NEED to have a house, but if you have one, you're probably not going to want to leave it completely barren. Crafting can help you there. You don't NEED to glamour your gear, but if you love the stats but hate the look of the gear you wear, Glamour can be a godsend. Crafting can help you there. You don't NEED food or potions, but you won't be taken seriously for a lot of endgame activites unless you have it. Crafting can help you there. You don't NEED a relic weapon, there are plenty of alternatives available, but if you do make one you're going to need a lot of Materia for your Novus weapon. Crafting can help you there.

    And, of course, if you're a Crafter or Gatherer, nearly all of your gear is crafted and will require a lot of Materia. Crafting can help you there.
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