The incentive to PvP

[Synestra]

If having a players that really doesnt care about match results means we get shorter que i can totally deal with it, yeah it sucks that have players like that in your team but alteast you get to play more FL's instead sitting in que for hours. I take 10 losses in row rather than spend that same amount of time in que while gaining absolutely nothing at all.

[Dimitrii]

If having a players that really doesnt care about match results means we get shorter que i can totally deal with it, yeah it sucks that have players like that in your team but alteast you get to play more FL's instead sitting in que for hours. I take 10 losses in row rather than spend that same amount of time in que while gaining absolutely nothing at all.

The day I find myself sharing this sentiment will be the day I give up on PVP altogether. Winning and competitive play is all that matters in pvp to me. Saying otherwise is as ridiculous to me as a person doing laughing emotes or popping champagne after killing someone when their team is in last place and down by 500 points. Shouldnt be promoting a loser's mentality for a game mode who's only real draw and replay attraction is the competition.

[Domira]

For me the incentive of pvp is pvp itself. I like the competition, team work, strategies. There is nothing better than going up against other players who know what they are doing.

[Atreus]

^ Nailed it.

[Zerotrocity]

I would still play if it offered no rewards. I play for the competition and thats fun for me. Players come back to wolves den... frontlines is wack!!

[Synestra]

The day I find myself sharing this sentiment will be the day I give up on PVP altogether. Winning and competitive play is all that matters in pvp to me. Saying otherwise is as ridiculous to me as a person doing laughing emotes or popping champagne after killing someone when their team is in last place and down by 500 points. Shouldnt be promoting a loser's mentality for a game mode who's only real draw and replay attraction is the competition.

I understand and agree but if we cant have both then i rather take some form of pvp action than nothing at all, only way to have real competition in FL settings would be a ranked FL with 3 pre-made alliances on all 3 sides.

[Khonrath]

SE PvP isnt great, but it is still PvP.... I'm doing it for the gear glamour...thats about it.

[AutumnsHollow]

It would be nice to not have reskinned gear as the reward, but I just enjoy the PVP itself. Some new modes would do wonders though.

[Logo]

I PVP for the fun, its new and exciting each time.

Though Frontlines is getting frustrating, long wait, people who don't care (Full ACC gear what?), Gear from wolf marks that is useless in actual PVP, non-existent Wolves den.

I really think they need to break the tie to GC for Frontlines and future PVP options.
It really doesn't make a difference. it gives Wolf marks, not seals.

Also smaller, 8 man vs 8 man PVP options.
so you an actually strategie instead of having a high percentage of assclowns.
Some simple capture the flag stuff.

[Khonrath]

I really think they need to break the tie to GC for Frontlines and future PVP options.

Also smaller, 8 man vs 8 man PVP options.
so you an actually strategie instead of having a high percentage of assclowns.
Some simple capture the flag stuff.

8v8 would be a great add. Something bigger than wolves den, but not as large as Frontlines.