Challenging 4-Man Content Please

[Zumi]

I didn't find either of those you mentioned hard. I play on a legacy server most of my FC had all the jobs to 50 when 2.0 came out. When we finished the main story quest to unlock the dungeons 2 days after 2.0 was out. FC group ran AK all day. We did WP once but then found that AK was better due to it giving more points.

In AK demon wall usually died before the bugs even came out. If you found demon wall hard it was because there were a lot of people who only play FFXI and never any kind of action oriented game couldn't understand not to stand in the black stuff and get in the center for the push back but it was a very simple pattern to follow but the masses can fail. Then someone found out about speed runs and how you could just skip the trash which let you spam the dungeon in 10 min. We had almost all our jobs in full darklight before SE nerfed speed runs.

Did PS with a FC group on the first day it was out didn't find it particularly hard either but it took 30 min to do which was a lot longer then other dungeons and thus not worth the time for same rewards. SE basically doesn't give you a reason to touch longer dungeons as long as they offer the same rewards.

In 2.2 brayfox because the dungeon people spammed for myth because it took the shortest amount of time to finish.