Challenging 4-Man Content Please

[VahnValbosce]

Not a complaint, I just wish for harder 4-man content for fun (I enjoy being challenged, I know not everybody does).

I agree with this thread 100%, and would like to add that people should not be asking for content to become easier. Alot of it is very easy to begin with and "steam-rollable" content is not what Video Games are intended for in the first place...

[Kikosho]

I for one would like to see 4-man dungeons on the difficulty level of Coil that are part of endgame progression with it's difficulty and loot. Put in accessories or upgrade items in those dungeons but with the kicker that they aren't completely spammable like current 4-mans. Either a short dungeon lockout (6 hrs) or entry items that need to be earned to enter them.

And I honestly never found old AK or Pharos all that difficult. They were really straightforward.

[Lord_Zlatan]

I for one would like to see 4-man dungeons on the difficulty level of Coil that are part of endgame progression with it's difficulty and loot. Put in accessories or upgrade items in those dungeons but with the kicker that they aren't completely spammable like current 4-mans. Either a short dungeon lockout (6 hrs) or entry items that need to be earned to enter them.

And I honestly never found old AK or Pharos all that difficult. They were really straightforward.

Like the idea. BTW, I think most ppl say ak and psychological were hard bc in comparison to every other 4 man, they were

[Sapphic]

I for one would like to see 4-man dungeons on the difficulty level of Coil that are part of endgame progression with it's difficulty and loot. Put in accessories or upgrade items in those dungeons but with the kicker that they aren't completely spammable like current 4-mans. Either a short dungeon lockout (6 hrs) or entry items that need to be earned to enter them.

And I honestly never found old AK or Pharos all that difficult. They were really straightforward.

If they did, all we would see is posts on forums "demanding" it to be nerfed, or a "story mode" added XD

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Do we really need more lockouts?

[Exstal]

Do we really need more lockouts?

Short answer; yes.

Long answer; Most definitely. How else would the forums stay alive if not for lockouts? When they nerf Atma and give summoners new 4400p egis, it'll be a barren wasteland in here.

[Kikosho]

Lockouts are fine when you have a variety of things to do (and when they aren't too long). They suck in XIV cause we only have one coil-tier event.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Lockouts are fine when you have a variety of things to do (and when they aren't too long). They suck in XIV cause we only have one coil-tier event.

So much of this. Every major patch has nothing but a few hard mode dungeons, 1 new dungeon, the next crystal tower, the next coil, and a handful of main story quests with a primal fight in the end. That's not really a lot to do with those.

[Lord_Zlatan]

It could even just be 5-10 ills higher... or add an effect to the gear... something that rewards but doesn't break the current gear progression

[Havenchild]

Everytime we get a hard 4-man, people barely do it.

This would just be reliving history.