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    2 People in my group now have about every BRD drop minus anything from T9(Since we have not cleared it). I did get majority of my DRG gear though. I mean, RNG is RNG, it's there to make you keep playing for that set goal you have in mind. For what purpose would you have to continue logging on if you've attained everything you set out for? I mean, sure, they could ease it up a bit. Not likely though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reokudo View Post
    2 People in my group now have about every BRD drop minus anything from T9(Since we have not cleared it). I did get majority of my DRG gear though. I mean, RNG is RNG, it's there to make you keep playing for that set goal you have in mind. For what purpose would you have to continue logging on if you've attained everything you set out for? I mean, sure, they could ease it up a bit. Not likely though.
    I completely get that reason for using the current system, but it's still possible to pad out coil with a token based system too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    I completely get that reason for using the current system, but it's still possible to pad out coil with a token based system too.
    I'm not saying the idea is bad, mind you. I was just expressing how SE probably sees it. I wouldn't mind it either way, would be simpler.
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    So because your precious item did not drop for your group for months, the system needs to be changed. Other groups complain that they see the same item you miss all the time, but lack other items.
    Example. My Coil 1 group wanted for 2 bards the visor... it did not drop once a long time. The other group? They had the visor drop every single run while they never got the tank and healer stuff everyone allready had in his inventory or retainer at least once.

    this is the old.
    Why does Player A get 12 atmas in 5 hours but I only get 1 in 12 days kind of whining.

    Yeah Right. Just rerun it when it doesn't drop. I can do it several times a day. You not. Still if I run it several months 3 times a day and don't get my drop it still on a different level annoying than doing a run once a week 4 times a month. So lets say 3 months no drop? How many runs are those? 12?

    sure it is annoying not to get a drop within 3 month's. but how long does each run take with your group? 20-40 minutes? So you "wasted" 20-40 minutes a week to get a chance on your drop in a week. 80-160 minutes a month in 3 months 240 to 480 minutes.

    Now how long does St take, per run, including that even with "in progress" you not always get right to the boss you need?

    sheesh. Complain all you want, rng is and will always be luck based
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    Last edited by Kimikryo; 10-15-2014 at 11:51 PM.

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    I'm on about items for a whole class, thats kind of messed up. You say it's an hour or two a week which nowadays is true, but there is also the amount of time spent learning the turns, dedicating set evenings to going there with your team. A lot more work goes into clearing Coil than ST. ST you can just go when ever you want it doesn't take any organisation. I don't care about Atma or ST or any of the things I can re-run over and over, I have no problem with it as long as i get another shot at it but Coil has a lock out, once you've missed your drop for that week the opportunity is gone. RNG in most instances of the game is fine, but in this instance it can be a pain in the arse.
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    Seriously peeps, that so called seed RNG is based on server time, hence why i always saw different loots running with 8 different statics clearing coil at varying timeslot, and ofc the same RNG BS within the same timeslot if some of the statics ran it at the same timeslot. If there is any specifics, is that each static always QQ bout "OMG NOT ANOTHER - insert job- POS" and "Where the bloody hell is my -specific coveted gear-?"

    TLDR : run at different timeslots for different loot drops, 1 "job specific" timeslot spread between 2-3 hours each
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    Yeah. Ran in our regular timeslot. Got our 8th Monk body today.
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    I can relate with this. When I beat T5, I decided to farm it indefinitely until I got the Allagan Cane because it looked cool. Set up a bunch of farm, and clear parties every day for weeks till I finally got it. Ended up taking like 3 weeks worth of farming and around more than 80 clears (I gave up counting at this point) to get the cane. I brought a lot of people together to beat T5, as well as get people who needed it to advance to 2nd coil. So it was gut wrenching watching everyone get their weapon one by one. I was determined though, so I kept going with the same intentions of getting the damned cane. Mind you that all the runs before the run that I got the cane, it did not drop once.

    I can't say that I can prove it exactly, but I did save videos between my first clear and the clear that I got my cane on. I used the timestamps as estimates. I guess you could also ask around Cactuar about by T5 binge (I'm surprised some people actually remember that lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    I can relate with this. When I beat T5, I decided to farm it indefinitely until I got the Allagan Cane because it looked cool. Set up a bunch of farm, and clear parties every day for weeks till I finally got it. Ended up taking like 3 weeks worth of farming and around more than 80 clears
    That is commitment, when gear is out levelled I would just aim for the next one up. You must really like that Cain. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    That is commitment, when gear is out levelled I would just aim for the next one up. You must really like that Cain. XD
    Why yes, yes I do. I have it glamoured onto most of my WHM weapons because of how nice it looks. Second coil has been a lot nicer with me than the first, which is always a nice thing.
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