Gilgamesh has a BROTHER?!

[Kitaira]

Would be cool if Yōjimbō was in the game!

[Parz3val]

This would be sick.

I like the premise of Yojimbo having hunted him dimensionally for ages.

Would be truly epic.

And the dog & the chicken antics sounds too great.

[Toodles]

If SE wants to bring in a new version of Yojimbo, they can, plain and simple.

As an interdimensional nemesis to Gilgamesh... that'd be BA.

[BigPapaSmurf]

This would be pretty rad, not gonna lie.

[Stihllodeing]

Very much yes. Brother, Father, Second Cousin I don't care. But Yojimbo should only appear for the first time in Eorzea like this:

Setting: Full Moon
Appearance: Dimensional Transition to your presence
Cut Scene: Dramatic panning of camera highlighting the full moon, his radass dog, and his radass fedora.
Sound Effect: Super cliché oriental version of the classic Clint Eastwood dustbowl blowing across the screen thing/song and a very distinct whisper in the background saying only "yooooojimboooooo" like their throat has just been slit, or their last breath, or something.

Great topic

[Alistaire]

Not always the same individual (see: IX & XI) & only alluded to being the same across other FF titles.

Who's to say Yojimbo can't be from Genji (all we know is Gilgamesh wears Genji Armour anyway iirc) & that he has to follow the same rules as Greg recurring-wise.

He could always be a half-brother too...

Easy precedent for that: Cid, he's been vastly different in his various incarnations in the series. This game's Gilgamesh could have a brother who could be named/patterned after Yojimbo, no problem.

[Fyrebrand]

What if Gilgamesh IS Yojimbo

Now that you mention it, maybe Yojimbo sort of is the "Gilgamesh" of FFX. Not literally, of course, but maybe they originally thought of including Gilgamesh, but then reconsidered that he didn't really fit the game. But they wanted to have a summon with a similar image -- nomadic, red-clad swordsman, with an instant-kill slash, and a little companion (in FFXII, Enkidu is portrayed as a dog too, maybe it's a back-and-forth). I sort of also suspect that Valefor is a "more serious" reinterpretation of a chocobo summon in FFX. In FFVII, the first summon materia you get is Chocobo, which counts as Wind if you join it with Elemental materia. In FFX, Valefor is the first summon, and is also a wind-elemental bird creature. But it would have really thrown off the tone of the story if Yuna first learned to summon a chocobo so early on. It may even be a similar situation with Quezacoatl in FFVIII, but who knows.

Anyone remember Siegfried in FFVI? He is also a travelling comedy relief character you encounter at various times, who swoops in and steals your treasure. At the time, Gilgamesh had only ever appeared in FFV, so he wasn't established as a recurring gag in the series. Maybe someone at Square wanted to include a similar character in FFVI, but not literally copy Gilgamesh. But later, after Gilgamesh became so popular among fans, Square decided to go back to that original figure and make it a repeating thing.

I know it's a stretch, but the similarity in themes are at least suspicious.

How could Gilgamesh be a spirit created through praying ?

Many players prayed for Gilgamesh to appear in FFXIV. We got our wish! :P


Anyway, some of you are thinking way too literally about this. Gilgamesh is not actually the same in each game, any more than we keep seeing the same chocobos, moogles, summons, etc. Heck, we have "materia" in FFXIV. Do you think they are literally the crystallized essence of the Lifestream, as in FFVII?

Yoshi-P said that a cameo character would never come if they're dead in their own game.

1) Doesn't Gilgamesh die in the final dungeon of FFV? And yet he appears in many other FF games, including FFXIV.

2) Game developers and PR people say a lot of things. They often turn out to be untrue, or they change their minds.

3) What kind of arbitrary qualification is that? Who cares if they died in their original game? They're not literally the same character. IT'S A CAMEO. It's not meant to be taken too seriously.

[lololink]

1) Doesn't Gilgamesh die in the final dungeon of FFV? And yet he appears in many other FF games, including FFXIV.

We don't really know if he dies or not and he could totally have been wandering in all the FF games between the time he was sent to the void and the time he supposedly dies, because, you know, time and space travelling convenient logic.

[Blacksmith_Tony]

Tongue in cheek response, but isn't it a tad racist to take the very obviously Japanese inspired Samurai character from a past FF game, and pair him up as the alleged brother of the other very Japanese inspired Kabuki character based on the real life Mesopotamian warrior king from a past FF game?

[Sholah]

Gilgamesh is not actually the same in each game, any more than we keep seeing the same chocobos, moogles, summons, etc.

He actually is. After Gilgamesh is blown away in the Void in FF5, it somehow sends him to FF8. The Japanese version of the game has him asking about Bartz and the Interdimensional Rift in confusion when he first appears. From there, he jumps between worlds looking for Excalibur and Bartz.