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    Quote Originally Posted by winxbloom61 View Post
    ...greedy snob devs...
    If this is not a troll post... You described yourself, not the devs. Every American version of Final Fantasy, until 8, used the 1, 2 and 3 format for spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eardstapa View Post
    If this is not a troll post... You described yourself, not the devs. Every American version of Final Fantasy, until 8, used the 1, 2 and 3 format for spells.
    This is correct. For the ENGLISH versions of the game. The West has almost always gotten 'simplified' versions of the games because it's assumed we're unintelligent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyne_Fellpool View Post
    I remember when FF8 first came out. I was like "wtf is all this -ra, -ga nonsense??" It was so annoying after playing 7+ FF games with numbered spell tiers.

    That was the first time the spells were called that in English. FF EIGHT. The first 7 games (more if u count FFT and others) were NOT named this way.

    Fire 1, Fire 2, etc IS the classic naming scheme for english. I'm glad they kept it.
    As has been pointed out several times, the suffixes are the actual names of the spells in Japanese and have been corrected to these since VIII. The numbers were due to character limitations and nothing else.

    Also, you didn't play "7+" of them like this. You played, at the most, five. The original, IV, VI, VII, and Tactics were the only ones available in English at that time. And again, every single one of these but VII has been corrected via more recent remakes, some of them more than once.

    Furthermore, note that "classic naming" is not one of the reasons given for this by Fernehalwes, because it's simply not true. If it were, which would be incredibly stupid because it was only done due to character limitations, you wouldn't see "Thunder III," you'd see "LIT3" or "Bolt 3."
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    It's funny how some people jump out to over defend and over justify something as simple as names, just because ARR can do nothing wrong.

    Anyway, they used to have -ra -ga suffixes in 1.18 onwards before getting changed back for simplicity at least in the English client. It's one of the first things I hope UI mods address, whenever those are coming since it's been almost 2 years since they were promised and still nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    It's funny how some people jump out to over defend and over justify something as simple as names, just because ARR can do nothing wrong.

    Anyway, they used to have -ra -ga suffixes in 1.18 onwards before getting changed back for simplicity at least in the English client. It's one of the first things I hope UI mods address, whenever those are coming since it's been almost 2 years since they were promised and still nothing.
    Yeah, they aren't changing it. Good thing too. I'll be happy to know something this small bothers you and OP so much
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Macro Name: Firaga
    /macroicon "Fire III"
    /ac "Fire III" <t>
    this^
    /thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    It's funny how some people jump out to over defend and over justify something as simple as names, just because ARR can do nothing wrong.

    Anyway, they used to have -ra -ga suffixes in 1.18 onwards before getting changed back for simplicity at least in the English client. It's one of the first things I hope UI mods address, whenever those are coming since it's been almost 2 years since they were promised and still nothing.
    ARR does plenty wrong, it's dependent on perspective. Some people like ARR regardless of flaw and others don't, we're free to have opinions and different likes.

    Because it is something as simple as names and both have been used in Final Fantasy as a series regardless of reasons then there shouldn't be a problem with leaving it as Fire II or Fire III unless changing the name will magically buff up our spells.

    Plenty of things had small changes from 1.1x so it's not like this is the first nor is it entirely deal-breaking.
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    Last edited by Lillia; 10-15-2014 at 05:28 AM.

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    I just think it's funny that people are riding SE's junk so hard that they are completely fine with SE thinking their English speaking brains are too stupid to comprehend spell suffixes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziddyt View Post
    I just think it's funny that people are riding SE's junk so hard that they are completely fine with SE thinking their English speaking brains are too stupid to comprehend spell suffixes.
    If SE thought that then in my honest opinion, we would of never had FF9 or FF10 with ra or ga spells... I am not defending them but it doesn't make sense to say they are too dim to understand these things! then a few yrs down the road say here you go, you dim gamers!

    I don't see anything in the choice of changing things up every now and then that implies we're dumb, but I could be absolutely wrong in my thought on that and SE could come out one day to say word for word that the west just don't understand simple concepts. >_>;

    Edit: Also a recent game that released..... Theatrhyhm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call has Fira as well.
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    Why would they make the change "to avoid confusion," if that wasn't the case? To assume something as simple as Firaga vs Fire III would be cause for confusion is to assume your customers' brains are leaking out of their ears.
    I mean, I've seen what players are like in DF, so it's not far off, but to assume that it's only a problem for the English localization? It's dumb.

    And when SE is generalizing the player base for FFXIV, it's a much, much broader audience than is going to be attracted to Theatrhythm. The LCD that will be catered to is different between the two.

    I don't play BLM so it's whatever, as I said I just think the situation is funny.
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