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    Delsus's Avatar
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    Lol OP is funny and obviously knows nothing about FF before 8. (not talking about remakes.)
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    Varsir Ishtear
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    If you want the -ra -ga namingsso badly, just macro each of your moves and give them their unique names.

    Fira
    /macroicon ''Fire II''
    /ac ''Fire II'' <t>

    Firaga
    /macroicon ''Fire III''
    /ac ''Fire III'' <t>

    Also, stay civil. Just because you can repost if it's deleted, doesn't mean they can't BAN you.
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    The rains have ceased, and we have been graced with another beautiful day. But you are not here to see it..

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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    I'm not a fanatic about it, but I prefer the ra-ga naming convention and wish they had used it in this game.

    As at least one other person has pointed out, the Roman numeral system is in some ways more confusing since progression from I through III would seem to imply that each consecutive version is an improvement over its predecessor(s)) when they're sometimes just very different spells. This may be why there are still BLMs at 50 sitting in UI spamming B2. No, honey boo-boo...just because it's there doesn't mean you should use it.
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    We had a big thread back in beta about this. They told us it made the game more simple because the spells go up in varying power thus I II and III(which is insulting since no other language does this) then when we explained how they don't vary in power at all as much as being totally different spells, the localization team decided to stop responding, probably because if the point was to make it simple but people would still have to read their skills to see they are different spells instead of just Fire 1, Fire 2, Fire 3, the same spell in variations. Then there was no point in not using the other suffixes. Another part of the explanation was that they couldn't have uniform suffixes for spell effects, then going on to say that it'd get messy to keep adding suffixes and determine which gets what suffixes.

    Yet the other localization teams went the other way and saw no problems with it. Because I totally want to see Fire IV , Fire V, down the line. =/ The answer just sounded lazy and like an excuse to me, but I doubt they'll change it.
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    Laraln Kornera
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    I am not sure why but whenever I read OP's arguments on details I want to remind them that their sig is stretched beyond belief and looks messy.
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    I remember when FF8 first came out. I was like "wtf is all this -ra, -ga nonsense??" It was so annoying after playing 7+ FF games with numbered spell tiers.

    That was the first time the spells were called that in English. FF EIGHT. The first 7 games (more if u count FFT and others) were NOT named this way.

    Fire 1, Fire 2, etc IS the classic naming scheme for english. I'm glad they kept it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyne_Fellpool View Post
    I remember when FF8 first came out. I was like "wtf is all this -ra, -ga nonsense??" It was so annoying after playing 7+ FF games with numbered spell tiers.

    That was the first time the spells were called that in English. FF EIGHT. The first 7 games (more if u count FFT and others) were NOT named this way.

    Fire 1, Fire 2, etc IS the classic naming scheme for english. I'm glad they kept it.
    I think the biggest problem I had with the response was them saying it was for simplicity when it doesn't accomplish that at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyne_Fellpool View Post
    I remember when FF8 first came out. I was like "wtf is all this -ra, -ga nonsense??" It was so annoying after playing 7+ FF games with numbered spell tiers.

    That was the first time the spells were called that in English. FF EIGHT. The first 7 games (more if u count FFT and others) were NOT named this way.

    Fire 1, Fire 2, etc IS the classic naming scheme for english. I'm glad they kept it.
    As has been pointed out several times, the suffixes are the actual names of the spells in Japanese and have been corrected to these since VIII. The numbers were due to character limitations and nothing else.

    Also, you didn't play "7+" of them like this. You played, at the most, five. The original, IV, VI, VII, and Tactics were the only ones available in English at that time. And again, every single one of these but VII has been corrected via more recent remakes, some of them more than once.

    Furthermore, note that "classic naming" is not one of the reasons given for this by Fernehalwes, because it's simply not true. If it were, which would be incredibly stupid because it was only done due to character limitations, you wouldn't see "Thunder III," you'd see "LIT3" or "Bolt 3."
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    Quote Originally Posted by winxbloom61 View Post
    Okay and yes im being seriose FIX THE NAMES OF SPELLS

    Fire II should be Fira fire 3 should be firage same with blizzard/thunder/bio/stone/aero/cure and so on dont take the classic names of spells from us PLEASE FIX THEM i seriosely cant play blm/smn/whm without getting angery at you for taking away the classic spell names
    Really? A few letters make you that mad? I'm not quite sure what to say to that. o.O

    Quote Originally Posted by winxbloom61 View Post
    can always repost it and u know happans when some fool is civil its pushed to side as if nothing at the least they can do is add a option in the char settings to choice which one we use the suffix or numb
    Not a good idea. If a thread gets deleted and you repost it, they'll simply end up slapping you with a ban.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaralnKornera View Post
    I am not sure why but whenever I read OP's arguments on details I want to remind them that their sig is stretched beyond belief and looks messy.
    Right? That sig bugs the heck out of me. >.<
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 10-14-2014 at 11:59 PM.

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    Gralya Arodica
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    Quote Originally Posted by winxbloom61 View Post
    Okay and yes im being seriose FIX THE NAMES OF SPELLS

    Fire II should be Fira fire 3 should be firage same with blizzard/thunder/bio/stone/aero/cure and so on dont take the classic names of spells from us PLEASE FIX THEM i seriosely cant play blm/smn/whm without getting angery at you for taking away the classic spell names
    Macro Name: Firaga
    /macroicon "Fire III"
    /ac "Fire III" <t>
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