Dear Devs fix the spells names!

[AdamFyi]

But how would they name it? I'm being serious here. I don't have anything against the more recent naming conventions, but honestly, what would they even rename the spells as? Since Fire II and Fire III are completely different with the former being an AoE and the latter being a single target spell, I'm sure a lot of people would be confused with the Fira and Firaga naming conventions.

"Why firaga not aoe se pls fix"
"Wai cura stronger than curaga se pls fix"

[MartaDemireux]

Yeah I agree a rename should be done for AoEs. Nothing is quite as confusing as playing BLM for a while, switching to WHM and be stuck in the II=AoE mentality.

AoE's could be changed to -ga. Fire, Fire II ST, Firaga AoE. Blizzard, Blizzzard II ST, Blizzaga AoE. Thunder, Thunder II ST, Thundaga AoE. Cure, Cure II ST, Curaga AoE. It's been done in the past and made prefect sense.

[abzoluut]

It's a very poor excuse if Yoshi used the "new player" stuff (yet again). As mentioned, JP/G/F don't use I/II/III.. So they prove it's not confusing.

Am I the only one who gets sick of this "new player" argument all the time?

[Moqi]

Ra ga ja have no place here when the spella do different things, and these ARE the original names.
The explanation quoted before makes perfect sense.

[Alkar]

No, they are not the original names. -ra,-ga,-ja have been the standard in Japanese since FF1, the English translation had to use numbers because of limitations and (later on) simply poor translation work (see Aerith).

I don't understand how I,II,III is more intuitive in this game where spells have completely different purposes. Fire deals damage, Fire II does not deal more damage and is AoE (so the II there isn't helping anyone understand when this specific spell should be used), Fire III deals more damage but it's not supposed to be cast all the time (again, how is III helping here?). Numbers are only confusing and this applies to all magic spells, even cures. It made sense in past FF games where Thundara replaced Thunder and Thundaga was even better but here each spell is used even at 50 (not counting stuff like Freeze and Blizzard II).

[Nuinn]

"Thundada" Lol.... No thank you. I'm quite comfortable with Roman numerals.

People can argue all they want about whether something is more FFish or not. The fact is that I,II,III is more intuitive as it's commonly used IRL. The only reason why I'd want -ra, -ga, -ja is for nostalgic reasons. For me personally, switching to Roman numerals doesn't take away from the game still feeling like a FF, nor it breaks my immersion or anything.

Not every change is inherently "evil" .... /shrug

[Laerune]

As much as I want to see the -ra, -ga, ja spells return, I do understand why Yoshi-P would pick for a I,II,III etc. New players are fresh blood that every mmorpg need, if we dont get fresh blood, then the game is doomed. That is why all the mmorpg's focus on making the game easy to understand for new players. So I understand why Yoshida did what he had to do.

[abzoluut]

I do understand why Yoshi-P would pick for a I,II,III etc. New players are fresh blood that every mmorpg need, if we dont get fresh blood, then the game is doomed. That is why all the mmorpg's focus on making the game easy to understand for new players.

Can you explain to us why a new player would understand the difference between Fire I and Fire II immediately just by looking at the suffix? They are spells for two different situations. I doubt that the classical suffixes would be more difficult. In fact, a suffix that for example would indicate an AoE spell would work better for new players. Cure II for example isn't exactly AoE.. In the end you actually need to read the tooltip to see what the ability does.

Can you also explain why they in the JP version (and German version too?) use the original suffixes? Do you think SE thinks the English speaking group is some type of brain damaged one? I doubt it. I don't know how you think about this, but the "new player" argument is invalid when half does get classical suffixes and the other half doesn't. A bit contradicting isn't it?

[Alukah]

Can you explain to us why a new player would understand the difference between Fire I and Fire II immediately just by looking at the suffix? They are spells for two different situations. I doubt that the classical suffixes would be more difficult. In fact, a suffix that for example would indicate an AoE spell would work better for new players. Cure II for example isn't exactly AoE.. In the end you actually need to read the tooltip to see what the ability does.

Can you also explain why they in the JP version (and German version too?) use the original suffixes? Do you think SE thinks the English speaking group is some type of brain damaged one? I doubt it. I don't know how you think about this, but the "new player" argument is invalid when half does get classical suffixes and the other half doesn't. A bit contradicting isn't it?

Maybe you should read that long quote in post #36, all your questions are answered there.

[Nuinn]

I'm quite sure everyone is very capable of remembering the difference between ra,ga,ja suffixes. If we had them from the start, everyone would know them by now, even if it was their fist encounter with those spells names. Why should they tho? People who play facepoop games and also play FFXIV keep this game alive for you and me to play with their subs just as much as the people with more brain cells do