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    Just like they revamped low level dungeons into Hard mode dungeons, they could do the same with all new HM dungeons they introduced since 2.0 (Pharos, Hullbreaker Isle etc,) and make them easy (is more easy possible lol) low level dungeons. This way, they would not need too much time ressources wise and levelling would have more Variety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    it's mostly because they have more than enough content below 50, people seems to fail to see that most of them time in a mmorpg will be spend at max level... some people like to level up more, but they are a minority.

    why add content that will have little use, when add content level 50 will add more stuff to do.
    other point all this level 50 dungeon will be handy when the expansion and the level rise will come out ^^
    With the offclass heavy nature of FFXIV, in combination with the lack of incentive to play most 50's dungeons. The queue times for the below 50 dungeons tend to be lower than for most 50's dungeons. Many people simply use those lower level dungeons for leveling purposes. Whereas the 50's dungeons really have no use whatsoever outside of the roulette ones.

    They may just as well scale down difficulty on 50's dungeons (non-HM) and use those to create more sub 50 dungeons.
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    A few new dungeons would be great for people leveling new classes to 50. Dungeons are great for leveling, especially for tanking and healing classes, but running the same one over and over and over again gets so tiring. Just a few more for level gaps would be amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomTom1968 View Post
    Just like they revamped low level dungeons into Hard mode dungeons, they could do the same with all new HM dungeons they introduced since 2.0 (Pharos, Hullbreaker Isle etc,) and make them easy (is more easy possible lol) low level dungeons. This way, they would not need too much time ressources wise and levelling would have more Variety.
    I like this idea. Some of them, especially Pharos Easy in particular, would be targeted towards people working on their 2nd+ job. Remember that with Pharos, you need access to the Isle of Umbra, which is late in the main story. Loot could even be the same as whatever level the dungeon was intended for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    it's mostly because they have more than enough content below 50, people seems to fail to see that most of them time in a mmorpg will be spend at max level... some people like to level up more, but they are a minority.

    why add content that will have little use, when add content level 50 will add more stuff to do.
    other point all this level 50 dungeon will be handy when the expansion and the level rise will come out ^^
    I respectfully disagree.

    New low level dungeons means more variety for players who want more content below level 50.

    And more low level content also helps players who want to max up more than one class without doing the same dungeons, fates or levequests (a tedious process).

    Moreover, SE can release a HM (or EX) version of a new low level dungeon. Or do a "easy mode" for hi-level dungeons.

    I think this would be a win-win situation for new and seasoned players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldheart View Post
    I respectfully disagree.

    New low level dungeons means more variety for players who want more content below level 50.

    And more low level content also helps players who want to max up more than one class without doing the same dungeons, fates or levequests (a tedious process).

    Moreover, SE can release a HM (or EX) version of a new low level dungeon. Or do a "easy mode" for hi-level dungeons.

    I think this would be a win-win situation for new and seasoned players.
    What about all those people who have already leveled every class to 50? You think ninja would be a big enough distraction to waste development time on an entire dungeon a large chunk of the player base will never need? I don't. Most players that level every job like that will have nin to 50 within a week and this dungeon will be 100% useless to them.

    Dev time should go to more useful things. Not too an incredibly small niche I don't think they should care about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    waste development time on an entire dungeon a large chunk of the player base will never need? I don't.
    Just like FFXI, there will be more classes (if this game survives the post WoW standard appeal) and the lower content will still have use, years from now. So it wouldn't be a waste of development time when as shown, they're not exactly going all out with certain content to begin with.

    Forcing us into old content for new content? That's such an immense amount of development time spent!

    Dev time should go to more useful things. Not too an incredibly small niche I don't think they should care about.
    True - However that proves this game isn't gaining new players and losing more players than it gains if low - mid level content is considered 'niche'. While you can hit cap pretty quickly, when they release 3-4 new classes/jobs per major update or expansion, you think you can just wander into level 50-60 dungeons after you unlock it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    What about all those people who have already leveled every class to 50? You think ninja would be a big enough distraction to waste development time on an entire dungeon a large chunk of the player base will never need? I don't. Most players that level every job like that will have nin to 50 within a week and this dungeon will be 100% useless to them.

    Dev time should go to more useful things. Not too an incredibly small niche I don't think they should care about.

    This is an interesting statement:: “(...) to waste development time on an entire dungeon a large chunk of the player base will never need?”

    How many active players achieved level 50 in every class? How many active players refuse to play new dungeons below level 50? I would like to see statistics about this.

    Don’t get me wrong: I would like to see new hi-level stuff, but I want more dungeons for low/mid level characters too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    Lvl 50 dungeons seem to get outdated quicker then the below 50 dungeons. Can't remember the last time I did a lvl 50 dungeon that wasn't one of the 3 in expert roulette. It would be nice if the AK, WP, Pharos, haukke hm, lost city, etc weren't useless now, but that is the way they want dungeon progression. At least the pre 50s get done whenever someone wants to lvl a new job.
    Man I hear you....how I wish they would make the Alexandrite map daily a "expert, trial or hard mode roulette"...tired of running the same 3 dungeons daily
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