[dev1033] Class name changes -> Specialization/Talent Trees Into Classic FF Classes

[Shazaam]

You are essentially saying people feel they do not have a role if they so choose to designate themselves to do something unconvential correct?

Umm... How I mine for fish?

Thanks!

-have Fun

[Seikninkuru]

Umm... How I mine for fish?

Thanks!

-have Fun

Are you confused by what i say? My question is:

Are you saying people are confused because they can use abilities to define who they are rather than a class they pick at start select?


Futhermore, if you feel so, you would want them to pick that class after X levels rather than at start?

What do you want? Character indivudality or classes you level.

I'll be more simple.

Pick a class, level it, be the class you choose to level at 30 25, 10, or 1.

or

choose your class as you grow as a character.


Thanks!

- Have fun

[Shazaam]

Are you confused by what i say?

Very much so. These are the English forums right?

[Seikninkuru]

Very much so. These are the English forums right?

They are, and I'm sorry if I confuse you. Could you expand upon what is confusing you so i would better explain?

Thanks!

-have fun

[Shazaam]

They are, and I'm sorry if I confuse you. Could you expand upon what is confusing you so i would better explain?

Thanks!

-have fun

It's the syntax and grammar. It is almost like you are following an idea with the supposition that I know what is going on inside your head.

Like a mathematical equation, please show your work. I really have no clue as to what you are trying to say in the last few posts. Re-read them as if you were reading them for the first time, and clarify please.

Edit:

Read the OP, and type something legible next time. I'm going to do something more productive.

[Seikninkuru]

It's the syntax and grammar. It is almost like you are following an idea with the supposition that I know what is going on inside your head.

Like a mathematical equation, please show your work. I really have no clue as to what you are trying to say in the last few posts. Re-read them as if you were reading them for the first time, and clarify please.

Well maybe I'm so stupid, sorry we can't get along, would you care to refute a point or masturbate talking about grammar? confused what your problem is.


Thanks!


-Have fun!

I'll be super simpel for you, I question why you need defined classes and are incapable of fulfilled the needed roles of society on your own, only by the the class chosen at start up, if that doesn't mate sense I'll be flat out.

Are you so incapable of personal choice that you cannot feel like an individual without being a specific class? Can you not fulfill a role if you are not forced to? What forces you to be a white mage other than nostalgia? Why, if I choose to be a healer can I not be one now? Becaause i can... Just want to know thanks, jealous you don't get preferrential spots in a team or something?

Thanks!

-Have Fun

[Kurokikaze]

Well maybe I'm so stupid, sorry we can't get along, would you care to refute a point or masturbate talking about grammar? confused what your problem is.


Thanks!


-Have fun!

I'll be super simpel for you, I question why you need defined classes and are incapable of fulfilled the needed roles of society on your own, only by the the class chosen at start up, if that doesn't mate sense I'll be flat out.

Are you so incapable of personal choice that you cannot feel like an individual without being a specific class? Can you not fulfill a role if you are not forced to? What forces you to be a white mage other than nostalgia? Why, if I choose to be a healer can I not be one now? Becaause i can... Just want to know thanks, jealous you don't get preferrential spots in a team or something?

Thanks!

-Have Fun

We've established that lack of set roles and class definition IS the problem with our current classes (in OP those are major - FF names are minor issues). Sure you can find a few CONs or THMs to heal but lemme know if you find one that doesn't get pigeonholed into it and gets to nuke. Not a single one. Thats a problem with 1. the class, 2. the abilities. If that CON were able to specialize into a stronger nuke oriented CON (which I'm calling a BLM for FF's sake and because they PLAN to introduce it regardless) they would be able to use their nukes because they are stronger than they are now and they have a clearly defined role. CONs that nuke are damage dealers - theres no way to spin that and no one will make them heal when they don't want to. Most of my friends that quit played BLM in XI and planned to do something similar here but they ran into this giant problem.

The above happens with many classes. No one knows what they're doing except casters that are healers by default and theres no way around that.

I don't see whats so hard to understand about that.

@northernsky It wasn't really to that comparison post but Cairdaes shameless plugging of an idea he supports. I don't jump in his thread and route viewers this way, I would appreciate it if he doesn't do it here. I thought we agreed to disagree.

Also I snapped a bit I suppose, because I made things VERY clear in the OP and yet I've sat through 45+ pages of questions/comments that could've been avoided by understanding what was in the OP.

Read it, understand it, then comment, make suggestions, or ask questions.. otherwise you are being detrimental to the process.