[dev1033] Class name changes -> Specialization/Talent Trees Into Classic FF Classes

[Kurokikaze]

Well, say, if Dark Knight behaved and acted like a Paladin but were a DD I wouldn't have a problem. But the concept itself is "dark", "evil", and the skills would definitely represent this (since they need to stand out, right?). The concept of Dark Knight and Paladin is the problem, not necessarily the names.

And why I bring this up, is not because you used it in your example- it's because that's what the dev team is planning to do. Believe me, I would love to not see Gladiator become an inferior stepping stone for the 'normal' classes- but they've got the art for armor ready and everything!

It's why I'm not sure whether we should make our discussion be based on a concept that seems to be going down the drain at the moment. Even making the game full of SCH's with a different "theme" (with abilities and spells you can't use cross-class after a certain threshold, of course) and expanding on that with armor and skills that represent the theme would have sufficed.

But now it seems BLM is coming, DRK is coming and PLD is coming... and most likely will be used as specializations of the existing classes. So now we need to figure out a solution to the problem of DRK and PLD coming from the same class and which level up simultaneously.. but how?

EDIT: Well it's not us that needs to figure this shit out lol but we can nudge the developers towards something potentially good instead of the *grind 'till your ears fall off*-solution aye?

Yeah the armor is coming and yes it can only be worn when you fall into one of the specializations. Because the armor is coming does not throw away the concept. Also, I planned for it in the OP with Artifact Armor quests.

As for DRK and PLD coming from the same class... Thats a lore issue and I leave it in SE's capable hands to come up with some interesting stories to not only introduce them but blend them in with what we have now in a way that makes sense. There will be quests from current guilds that through out the grind explain the paths taken and their meaning in Eorzea. The same goes for every specialization.

Shitty example I gave a few pages after the OP:

Dark Knight:
"A few Gladiators have come up with a way to infuse the dark arts of conjurers/thaumaturge within a sword. The sword is said to drain the very life of their opponents in the colosseum. They started calling themselves Dark Knights - bunch of morons if you ask me. They're probably training near the THM guild now..."

Paladin:
"You don't seem to fight in the colosseum unless provoked... you wanna be some kind of knight in shiny armor? You've got a lot to learn kid..."

Yes I know I suck, thats why I said I leave it to SE to do what you seem to have an issue with. Lore/story.

I have this really crazy image in my head of what I thought this game was going to be or could've been.