[dev1033] Class name changes -> Specialization/Talent Trees Into Classic FF Classes

[Kurokikaze]

I did read your post, but maybe didn't clearly understand what you're trying to put out there. what I want, personally, is to do away with the current jobs. if they're not going to get rid of the current jobs, I don't want to be stuck with the current jobs and "specialize" in something else while still having to retain the fact I am one of the base jobs. I don't know, I guess I'm not really saying what I want to say very well. But, personally I believe in yoshi-p's first idea.

I understand what you're trying to say. You want to clearly just rename Gladiator into something else and do away with them. This change by itself will not fix those classes.

[Demacia]

I don't think the current classes should be removed since there's already some lame lore attached to them, but I do think that they should only serve as BASE classes. No max level gladiators, only advanced classes.

[MagicofGaia]

I don't think the current classes should be removed since there's already some lame lore attached to them, but I do think that they should only serve as BASE classes. No max level gladiators, only advanced classes.

That would be currently improbable given the game is launched and he has declared he will not remove people's current ranks. There are already rank 50 Glad's.

[Kurokikaze]

That would be currently improbable given the game is launched and he has declared he will not remove people's current ranks. There are already rank 50 Glad's.

If this change does happen then those 50 Gladiators would have all their talent points and will be able to play DRK or PLD by doing the quest.

[Anathiel]

I understand what you're trying to say. You want to clearly just rename Gladiator into something else and do away with them. This change by itself will not fix those classes.

No, I want paladin to be a job all to it's self instead of being a WoW-type tree of gladiator. I enjoyed the system of ffxi and I think it should be implemented again to some extent. having paladin and dark knight be jobs all to their own means I can switch between to the two easily, and level them up seperately depending on the type of style I want to play. I don't want to have to re-spec all the time depending on what my LS is doing. why not leave the jobs separate instead of being a "spec"?

[Kurokikaze]

Yes. You will not be locked from playing a spec or another base class entirely. Assuming you have you classes leveled:

Today you're playing DRK on Gladiator, maybe later you want to switch to PLD, wait you changed your mind and want to play Lancer and work on DRG.

You can do these things. That is a staple of the franchise and my favorite thing about FFXI. I do not like games that force players into making new characters to play a different class.

[Fiddle_Sticks]

Kuroki... Only thing I can do is steal your "emote" often used on BG....

/GOLFCLAP!!!

Amazing job here! Great ideas, well thought out, and explained very well! Let's hope the Dev Team gives this the attention it deserves.

[Marious]

My question is why not Gladiator 50 if you want (If the names stay)? Why should the base job only go to a certain Rank? In XI a lot of people enjoyed being a whm/sub-job. The way you are explaining it this would not be possible and you would not be able to use any of the other jobs abilities at all. While I agree that if you are a R5 Power Ranger you should not be able to use a R50 job ability but you should be able to use the R5 ability of any of the jobs you have actually ranked up. This is why I say instead of scrapping the current system, fix the stats and work with what you have, this will work for your idea as well Kuroki.

[Demacia]

My question is why not Gladiator 50 if you want (If the names stay)? Why should the base job only go to a certain Rank? In XI a lot of people enjoyed being a whm/sub-job. The way you are explaining it this would not be possible and you would not be able to use any of the other jobs abilities at all. While I agree that if you are a R5 Power Ranger you should not be able to use a R50 job ability but you should be able to use the R5 ability of any of the jobs you have actually ranked up. This is why I say instead of scrapping the current system, fix the stats and work with what you have, this will work for your idea as well Kuroki.

Well like someone else said, FFXI advanced jobs weren't really "advanced" just unlockable extra jobs. I just don't continuing on with the base class would tie in with OP's idea. If they just introduced unlockable jobs on the other hand then who knows? I personally don't think they put much thought into the current classes at all, ESPECIALLY DoM.

[Markishin]

Incredible!
I had imagined
something like in the beginning, for example.
classes as the battle of magic and war
with class names such as old but, alchemist
botanic, blacksmith and the other as second and may choose such
another as the third.
but to my way of thinking that having your idea?! it would be nice
great idea .. hopefully take place ^ ^