Patch 1.18a Notes

[DoubleEcho]

Then use them. It sounds like you don't even know they exist.

I have to disagree with your suggestion on using ethers. You do realize that it only gives back 50mp, and has a pretty significant "recast" timer on using another one? I agree on using Tranquility and Exhalation, but as they stand now Ethers are a joke. Also going passive to regain MP while watching your party die not only makes you look like a bad healer, it's also a dysfunctional way to play a mage class.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

I have to disagree with your suggestion on using ethers. You do realize that it only gives back 50mp, and has a pretty significant "recast" timer on using another one? I agree on using Tranquility and Exhalation, but as they stand now Ethers are a joke. Also going passive to regain MP while watching your party die not only makes you look like a bad healer, it's also a dysfunctional way to play a mage class.

That why I said complain about the ethers, ask the Devs to increase them to 100mp or something.

[DoubleEcho]

That why I said complain about the ethers, ask the Devs to increase them to 100mp or something.

That's not the problem with them though, it's the reuse timer.

[Laughlyn]

That why I said complain about the ethers, ask the Devs to increase them to 100mp or something.

I / We have & it will get fixed... thats why im still saying lolethers cuz it havent been "fixed" yet.
Oh snap, im sure someone will enter & go "Ethers are just fine...." any second now. (just like you...lol)

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

I / We have & it will get fixed... thats why im still saying lolethers cuz it havent been "fixed" yet.
Oh snap, im sure someone will enter & go "Ethers are just fine...." any second now. (just like you...lol)

So you want them fix mana consumption even though you know they're going to fix the item potency? If they lower the MP on certain skills then increase potency of certain items, then it's gonna be broken again. People are going to use whatever spell they like without repercussions, because they're gonna have low MP costs and "super ethers". It's gonna be how it was before 1.18 came out again.

[Laughlyn]

So you want them fix mana consumption even though you know they're going to fix the item potency? If they lower the MP on certain skills then increase potency of certain items then it's gonna be broken again. People are going to use whatever spell they like without repercussions, because they're gonna low MP costs and "super ethers". It's gonna be how it was before 1.18 came out again.

No, idc about the crazy mana cost, i want players that havent played mage & experienced the mana consumption for themselves.
So they dont go rampaging into battles like thye expect healers do stand behind & spam heals like its freakin xmas.

I want players (mostly melee to being able to take care of themselves, have proper skills & spells equipped), and some mages to stand in their damn spot, being ready to heal when needed, not some damn crazed out melee-mage trying to play red mage or some shit like that.

I kinda like the mana consumption challenge, but i dont like players that think "it's all fine", you have auto attack... 1 major drawback for mages when using sleep, when u melee screws it up with ur damn auto-attack. (oh ya not ur fault, it's SE's.)

Thats just one example, then ther's the players that claim they know everything about everything even
thoug they have no visual proof of playing mage , trying it out for themselves, just basing facts upon rumors.

And yet you brought in the biggest FAIl item ever...lolethers, i mightaswell use my own tp skill to gain more mp that way.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

And yet you brought in the biggest FAIl item ever...lolethers, i mightaswell use my own tp skill to gain more mp that way.

Then use your skills, you just proved my point. Don't complain about the consumption, there's many ways to get MP back.

[quantumsaint]

Then use your skills, you just proved my point. Don't complain about the consumption, there's many ways to get MP back.

You don't play mage classes. Quit being an apologist.

[Laughlyn]

Then use your skills, you just proved my point. Don't complain about the consumption, there's many ways to get MP back.

I didnt complain about the consumption learn to read the entire post.
I was complaining about the players... such as you saying everything is fine, when you dont even know for yourself.
If you do where is your proof?

1 full party wipe means 3-4 raise now do the MP cost, then see how much mana i have left, before i even get any mana back
some of the ppl i ressed have rushed into battle...im sure you figure out i have to heal at this point?

And my tranquility is on a cooldown, (oh ya conj cant use the THM's MP back special skill if you didnt freakin know this)

NBO...you go into Dzemael Dungeon first & then come back and not complain about the mana consumption or some freakin insane "Pick up Group" people wasting your mana on bullshit rushing methods that kills em.

Maybei should spell it out for you.... i complain about players not doing their jobs properly,
melee in first hand, then the odd mage going melee crazy. (im sure you never expericed this, but im sure you will)

[Laughlyn]

i give up, no reason with a 0.ranked mage class player.

I rather have my Thunder II backfire on my pt at this point