Wolves Den PVP - Aether players, where are you?

[Rin23]

On Odin we have a linkshell with 30 players. We organize some matchs and we can arena 2 h / day with instant proc

Move on Odin you are welcome

[Zerotrocity]

Im good where i am at lol, thanks for the offer though.

[Houston009]

All hail Ninja!

[Slib]

I've qued for every bracket almost every day when i sit there not doing much and all I see are level 30 or 40 que pops. Everyone in it is usually new... Not like the old days .

I don't understand why wolves den was not liked.

[Zerotrocity]

I've qued for every bracket almost every day when i sit there not doing much and all I see are level 30 or 40 que pops. Everyone in it is usually new... Not like the old days .

I don't understand why wolves den was not liked.

Yea i don't understand either, i'm usually qued for everything aswell but it rarely pops and when it does its all noobs. I just assume i'm the only one queing for wolves den now. Maybe wolves den is too competitive or fast paced and that's why people don't like it. It's a mystery. Just hope all you guys come back out for 2.4. I'll be rocking that ninja!!

[ish007xx]

lol zero we going busy again 2.4 new ranks (Ques going get even worse) maybe new gear lol i aint wasting my gil on my pvp gear this time to get fked over to not even use it in Frontlines. Jut going use pvp materia.
They need to put the ques back to what it was when it now hit. Yeah we had to claw our way through the players that would have been ahead of us but when finally getting that gear u couldve finally be on par with those players and it was hella fun. Frontlines killed the den and mostly every1 who plays Frontlines thinks "Their the shit" till they stepped foot in the den.
I remember a few weeks ago i ran into some premades in the den i never saw before but they had pvp gear yet they sucked i carried the team even with i90 pve healers lol. Only thing frontlines good for is for lvling thats it. No skill required in there its just a zerg fest.
All they need to do is put the ques back to what it was when pvp 1st came out in the den and everything would be great again. Also most of the good den players had quit by now lol. Maybe just maybe 2.4 den might get revived.

[Holicccc]

Lets bring the den back with this patch

[Potatoes]

den is just too quick and dirty for most, include the long queues and matchmaking system and it's pretty much done

[Miyu20]

I would love to be able to play Wolves Den on Aether... Here on Jenova, we were thinking of making a PvP Friday... What day would be best to see you? I'll chat with my LS to see who is into the Den!

I have ALWAYS wanted to play more Den but since I started to play after 2.3 came out... I never could... BTW, don't hate on noobs.... You were once a noob too you know.

[Namasu]

BTW, don't hate on noobs.... You were once a noob too you know.

And that's exactly part of the reason why Den died. The disparity between newbie and regulars is just too much before you even factor in the mess that is morale gears. Noobs are hated and get steamrolled all day before they can learn to hold their own. The matching system is also a joke and drove more people away.

The "veterans" can talk it up about how great Den was all they want, but they are as much of a problem as SE. You have people saying oh stop doing frontline and come do Den where the pros are at. Fine, the newbies grind their way up to get pvp gears in frontline and go do Den like Yoshi suggested. Then they get made fun of by people like that guy a couple posts up about how they are noobs despite having pvp gears. I've seen this behavior multiple time in the forum AND in game. Gee if I was a newbie who's interested in doing Den and read this thread, I probably would just stick with frontline instead.

Personally, I would only touch Den again if they implement an actual ranking system with exclusive rewards (glamors, pets, etc, don't need no more stupid morale gears to break the balance) separate from frontline.