Page 5 of 5 FirstFirst ... 3 4 5
Results 41 to 48 of 48
  1. #41
    Player
    ChameleonMS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    1,040
    Character
    Jordan O'niell
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    You are absolutely correct, that tanking can be a thankless job. As player that plays all roles, when I tank low stuff, usually because of relic requirements, and I experience DPS as you describe. I have one response for them. "If you do not like it, kick me an wait another 30 minutes for my replacement." At this point they stfu and we continue or I get kicked, and can insta-queue to the next duty and a better group of humans.
    There are rare circumstances, when I vote kick the abusive player.

    Most often, I do not experience those fools. We wipe, meh, re-do, re-instruct on missed mechanics and try again.

    Tanks that get emotionally injured by the bad attitudes of other player have forgotten just how valuable s/he is to the dungeon completion. Try doing any sub 50 dungeon above Toto-Rak without one.
    (0)
    Last edited by ChameleonMS; 06-02-2015 at 11:00 PM.

  2. #42
    Player
    Seryl199's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    549
    Character
    Delferia Seule
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    I've never had a problem as a tank in low level dungeons, and tanking is my secondary role. Let me tell you , my tanking skills were wretched to start, but very few low level dungeons are so unforgiving that a stray mob will immediately wipe the party if you actively try to get it back and try holding hate. A healer will be able to correct these mistakes easily, and anyone who complains about a player honestly trying and honestly struggling is complaining for the sake of complaining, especially if they aren't offering advice.

    More on topic, Main Story roulette is condensing all leveling dungeons from ARR and HW into a large pool of dungeons, which will help populate lower level dungeons with higher level players, and the new jobs start at level 30, which will put them in the first 5 dungeons right from the get go.
    (0)

  3. #43
    Player
    Malevicton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    969
    Character
    Zappa Dattic
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ChameleonMS View Post
    Try doing any sub 50 dungeon above Toto-Rak without one.
    Why stop at without a tank? Do em solo! Seriously lol, you can clear every sub-50 dungeon without a tank, and even some lvl 50 ones.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIjxAcihf8k

    Seriously, though, yes being rude is bad. It's just as bad to be rude to tanks as to anyone else, though. Tanks are not as special as many of them seem to think, and tbh I've often seen that sense of superiority be the source of problems and/or exacerbate problems. Tanking isn't harder, isn't more stressful, isn't more special in any way except that there happen to be less of them. If the persons class dictates whether or not you treat them respectfully, or how respectfully you treat them, then that's just hollow respect, an empty political gesture.
    (0)
    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  4. #44
    Player
    Lauren's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    187
    Character
    Athelisia Lumi
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    This is why I suggested these achievements (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n-guildhest%29) to try increase participation
    (0)

  5. #45
    Player
    Gorlioliolio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    135
    Character
    Shaggy Grant
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    If they would just allow premades of up to 3 players to queue for the low level roulette, only if they include a tank or healer or both for the in need bonus.

    I can run my low level friends through dungeons as a tank and get them the clears for story or xp or whatnot, but if they want that nice roulette bonus, they have to screw around for 40+ minutes wasting time.

    Wouldn't it be better if the low level person could say in fc chat, need a tank for low level roulette, and now since they are in need you just helped out another dps get through the queue.
    (0)

  6. #46
    Player
    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,048
    Character
    Mother Vain
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Honestly, Yoshi P could do this simply by giving us additional tomes for players who have no incentive (relic, first-clear) to do the dungeon and helping people who do.

    We need to think of it this way: how many times did you see someone in Mor Dhona shout for something that they need and you didn't? But, what if there was an in-game bonus that gave you worthwhile (key word, not first-time completion bonus which is barely worth it) reasons to help other people that helped you get to the weekly tome cap faster? What about the people knowing they have to go on vacation for half the week and need to speed up their game?

    I could see this as an immensely positive goal for XIV. Not only would it increase community participation, but reduce queues significantly. Tanks don't benefit from a low level dungeon unless they click on roulette, and even then that person is still sitting in queue once that tank completed their once-a-day goal.
    (0)
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    I hope the devs are listening. We need the devs to please listen.

  7. #47
    Player
    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,048
    Character
    Mother Vain
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Idea: Friendships by Pre-Form "Don't Need, Here to Help" Groups

    Possible parameters:
    - Players can be pre-formed but cannot receive items or relic progression in this mode. Player individually flags themselves to help the person who needs it (for relic progression, first-clear, leveling, etc.)
    - Players under these parameters gain an additional high-tomes bonus for helping and specific (or random) bonuses that are worth helping others over (first-time completion bonus isn't worth it, sorry guys).
    - Unlimited attempts, intended for tanks and healers to reduce queues further. This allows tanks to participate far more than the limits of the roulettes (because 1 tank and 10 dps doesn't reduce the queue if the tank can only do it once)
    - Bonuses for Free Company members, Alliances, or "neighborhood" guilds to improve the social experience for everyone. More friends = more reasons to stay subscribed.
    - Alleviates the flaw in "random groups" where players get severely discouraged when they don't know how to perform their jobs well and need a friend to help them understand better.
    (0)
    Last edited by Veritas-Ancora; 06-03-2015 at 08:23 PM.
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    I hope the devs are listening. We need the devs to please listen.

  8. #48
    Player
    PotatoWafflez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    280
    Character
    Endless Paradox
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 1
    I haven't done a low-level roulette since I got everything to 50 there is 0 incentive for me to do so I haven't even bothered with high-level roulette recently either having everything above ilvl107.

    They either need to make the low-level roulette drop more bonus Poet tomes than the expert or give some form of reward bag that gives you crafting mats or minions that you can't get anywhere else as the gil bonus is worthless 90% of the time.

    IMO there is 0 reason for the expert roulette to give more tomes that a low level roulette because people spam the three newest dungeons to cap anyway. I would rather the low level rewarded 75 poets (which is the same as expert roulette at the moment 40 + 35 Bonus) and the expert rewarded 45 (40 + 5 Bonus) because we all know people are going to run those dungeons regardless of bonus to cap if that is their only goal for the day/week.
    (0)
    Last edited by PotatoWafflez; 06-04-2015 at 04:31 PM.

Page 5 of 5 FirstFirst ... 3 4 5