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    Alexander_Dragonfang's Avatar
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Just by saying "horrible players" and describing this like if it was a plague, a dissease, something to get rid off almost like ebola, makes this thread completely elitist. And is not about content of the message, but how is delivered and how any normal person, specially the ones you are aiming for will read it, if anything, this encourages players to just keep doing this with the hope of just pissing people like you off, which is, at the end of the day, probably more satisfactory for them than progressing throught content.

    Seriously, if you want to evade having to see this, don`t use DF, get a group of the people you are comfortable with and let players play like they want. Most DF content is almost 2 man carriable anyway. And ranting about it, trying to do lectured about it, is just... Well, truth is, good players TEACH and good players LEARN, first by having a good positive attitude and the seconds by wanting to improve everyday. Nor you nor players who really never cared fit in this group and both are just diferent faces of the same coin. A negative coin sadly way to deep in our community.
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    Starvald's Avatar
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    Starvald Demelain
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    Diabolos
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    this encourages players to just keep doing this with the hope of just pissing people like you off, which is, at the end of the day, probably more satisfactory for them than progressing throught content.

    Seriously, if you want to evade having to see this, don`t use DF
    Players who cannot comprehend the message in the OP's post or just mis-gear because of trolling have no place in any decent group. If you want to troll because you like pissing people off, get prepared for a buttkick out of the group. If you do not even understand the simplest rules about gear progression and stats which is clearly described in your character sheet, then maybe that game is not for you. Granted, I do tell people when I see that they have the wrong stats skilled....but if you still don't believe it or refuse to get educated about it...bye bye. (You is used as a general term of addressing in my post....not you specifically)


    Keeping a positive attitude about a complete fail in understanding only goes so far....I am generally quite forgiving towards new players and try to teach them but it piles up and my patience is running thing on some days. Moreover, I can at least expect a will to learn and not total ignorance about game mechanics.
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    Amelia_Pond_Behemoth's Avatar
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Just by saying "horrible players" and describing this like if it was a plague, a dissease, something to get rid off almost like ebola, makes this thread completely elitist.
    Nothing wrong with getting rid of horrible players. If they are willing to take advice, and take suggestions, we get rid of a horrible player, because they no longer are one.
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    Mahri's Avatar
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    Maral Malaguld
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Nah.

    Level with whatever you want. Dump 10k seals (pocket change) to maximize your stats at level 50 for optimal endgame results. Even so, a point of something else here or there isn't going to make much difference unless you're highly particular about optimization.
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    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Cactuar
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    This will work for scholar but for summoner, as soon as you'll use Spur, the Egi will snapshot your current stats therefore nullifying the gain.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Seeing a full myth hero with an extra myth ring (Casting+Healing on casters/healers, Slaying+Aiming/Fending on DRGs, etc) is literally an everyday occurrence. It's pretty disappointing when I have to tell someone who has cleared Turn 6 for the first time that, yes, their i70 DEX ring on BRD is going to be a lot more useful than the i100 STR ring they wore to clear it.
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    A lot of folks simple can't seem to believe that stats are as simple as they are in this game. Perhaps they, like myself, came here from Final Fantasty XI, where it seemed like every stat had half a dozen hidden effects that were rarely spelled-out in game (such as VIT giving a minor boost to curing spells). They just can't seem to believe that wearing a ring with 30 DEX on a MNK is exactly equivalent to wearing a ring with 0 DEX. It has stats, stats must be doing something! They're stats, stats don't just do nothing!!1!

    Yes, they do. They do nothing.

    Prepare to cringe at the impending influx of Rogues and Ninjas decked head to toe in DEX gear, because c'mon, Rogues and Ninjas are DEXTROUS! Dex has GOTTA do something great for them, right? Prepare also for the incoming flood of people who will SWEAR their critical hit rate went up by five percent ever since they started wearing DEX gear instead of STR. Nevermind that their crits are now doing half the damage their regular hits were before...
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    Eru Meru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 55
    I agree, not only this but to stop people from being stupid lazy.

    Example:
    I had a person on one of my final bard books the other day doing straight shot only. They also had wrong accessories on and had an atma weapon, after kindly asking them to do other skills besides straight shot (like dot or actually use buffs). They asked me to please shut up. (funny that was the last 2 seconds they ever spoke because they got booted lol)

    If people want to spiritbind JUNK gear, do it with a friend group or solo outside. The burden may not seem like much if you are in a group with some friends with strong backs, but this burden becomes worse when the pt is full DF.
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    If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after you pump 8, 32 caliber, slugs into it, it's probably a dragon.

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    Ignnis's Avatar
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Had a monk in HM using crafting accessories, asked her to remove them and she didn't, it was a very long and painful run (no positioning, was in mage gear too, just ugh (she wasn't new, she had like 6 lvl 50s)).

    I noticed that PLD and WAR are recommended to use STR accessories now and so far Ive seen a mixed bag of results from this, had a tank in Hullbreaker that couldn't keep agro on anything but one monster (first boss beat me to death) and tanks that were absolutely fine on huge pulls. Gear is useful but skill is more useful in some cases.
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