about blue mage

[winxbloom61]

Okay square enix you said the following
A: I think that blue mage is an interesting job because you can learn spells from enemies, but honestly I don't think that it really fits MMORPG party settings.


1st blue mage works in mmorpgs fine works great in ffxi no proplems

2nd the only reason you wouldnt add blue mage is because the skill system and the way you learn skills just plain out sucks for a final fantasy game and it wouldn't allow the full strength of a blue mage

3rd off if your not going to add blue mage give the dragoon the 3 breath attacks that makes final fantasy awesome aqua breath,bad breath and fire breath.

[Exstal]

1st - FFXI and no problems, are contradictory terms.
2nd - because we have a trinity it has to fit something which excludes some other skills (White Wind, Mighty Guard, etc)
3rd - that's a dumb suggestion

[Duelle]

2nd - because we have a trinity it has to fit something which excludes some other skills (White Wind, Mighty Guard, etc)

Well, Mighty Guard is a tank LB so that's also out. And you're right, White Wind would be OP if it was given to a tank or DPS. Even with a long cooldown.

3rd - that's a dumb suggestion

Verily.

[Gralna]

First off, you took only a portion of reply and responded out of context, here is the full answer, if it's too long for you to read then that's your own fault

A: I think that blue mage is an interesting job because you can learn spells from enemies, but honestly I don't think that it really fits MMORPG party settings. If anything, I think it would work solo and it would be really fun to implement it as a job where you go around and learn abilities from every monster, so I'd definitely like to try and do this, but I'm concerned when it comesto playing in a party players would put up barriers if you haven't learned certain abilities. Additionally, in the event you are able to use abilities forever once you learn them, the difficulty of learning abilities would be high, and we wouldn't be able to balance the system so it wouldn't revolve around procuring your abilities instead of equipment. This wouldn't be practical enough to fit in an MMORPG party setting and conversely if you are swapping in only certain abilities you've learned, the true image of a blue mage would diminish, so this is something that I am concerned with.

[DoubleT]

if it's too long for you to read then that's your own fault

tldr: its still on the drawing board phase, quit your crying people

[ShiloEET]

First off, you took only a portion of reply and responded out of context, here is the full answer, if it's too long for you to read then that's your own fault

Well so maybe blue mage could simply have a talent tree as a class. So blue mages can be one of 2 or 3 different builds. so no spell absorption just give them their own talent tree for this class like death knight.

edit: so blue mage can be tank/healer/dps or healer/dps. a unique class.
edit2: meaning in a group one healer might be a blue mage, and one dps would be a blue mage too.

for the record i also think maybe he could become a blue mage first but he can become healer or dps so you can see a blue mage fufill two roles.

[Naraku_Diabolos]

I always thought that if BLU were to come into this game, they could learn moves that could make them fill in one of the 3 trinities. Say if you have learned tanking abilities from fell foes, your BLU job can be a tank; if you learn DPS abilities, you'd be DPS; healing abilities and you are a healer. However for starters (like ARN), you would have buff and debuff abilities.

[Tupsi]

1st - FFXI and no problems, are contradictory terms.

Blue Mage has problems? Because from 2006-2014 I seen that Blue Mage works perfectly fine in XI...the only time it was ever "OP" was on old content that never scaled beyond 75, for example Moogle Kupo d'tat where a Blue Mage can one shot the final boss with a self SC due to the enhanced damage it takes. So no it's not contradictory. While some spell effects are 'broken', look at the blue mage spell list.

XI also has a trinity, yet it also has hybrids so it's just Yoshi trying to stick HEAVILY with the 'WoW model'.

Also, Dragoon was a 'breath specialist' for example in the Tactics games.

[Exstal]

Blue Mage has problems? Because from 2006-2014 I seen that Blue Mage works perfectly fine in XI...the only time it was ever "OP" was on old content that never scaled beyond 75, for example Moogle Kupo d'tat where a Blue Mage can one shot the final boss with a self SC due to the enhanced damage it takes. So no it's not contradictory. While some spell effects are 'broken', look at the blue mage spell list.

XI also has a trinity, yet it also has hybrids so it's just Yoshi trying to stick HEAVILY with the 'WoW model'.

Also, Dragoon was a 'breath specialist' for example in the Tactics games.

It was more of a blatant stab at FFXI at whole.　People from in-game tell me BLU was pretty unwanted which could be painted as a problem if people can't play it.　Given at the history of balance issues FFXI had, it'd be a lie to say there were no problems.

[Tupsi]

It was more of a blatant stab at FFXI at whole.　People from in-game tell me BLU was pretty unwanted which could be painted as a problem if people can't play it.　Given at the history of balance issues FFXI had, it'd be a lie to say there were no problems.

Yeah..pretty much every new job in XI gets that treatment lol, then you see someone who actually knows how to play the job and suddenly you want them. Blue Mage was unwanted for endgame because people were terrible at it - Puppetmaster was unwanted because their automaton was worthless due to not having attachments, Scholar was unwanted because it was basically a gimped Red Mage initially till first update shortly after,Dancer was unwanted because it didn't do as much damage as Thief due to using TP for cures mainly - Corsair was unwanted because it was a 'support roles', but then you seen the damage it can do WHILE being a support class..it's staple now, just like Blue Mage for certain debuffs.

So it wasn't really a balance problem, it's more of a player problem that people perceive as balance issues. Think WoW and how most of those balance changes were due to not the classes itself being unbalanced.