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    Lazy retainers

    Okay, so I leveled both my retainers to lvl50 miner and lvl50 botanist. Getting them to 50 took at least a month. And I've heard that giving them good gear increases the chances of them bringing you a good item. So I gave them my BIS perfectly melded gear for both classes.

    Since then I burned through estimated 400 venture coins and never have gotten an item that's worth more than 15k. And I also can't use my botanist/miner gear since they are wearing it all the time. Does the gear really influence the stuff they bring you? Cause so far I really can't tell any difference.

    Anyone else has the same bad luck? Or are my retainers just lazy and useless employees?
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    The higher level gear allows for them to be sent out on the higher level hunts. Each range of hunts has their own selection of possible drops. I'm not sure if there's a listing or spreadsheet available somewhere which summarizes exactly what each hunt for retainers at a certain level at a certain job may drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
    The higher level gear allows for them to be sent out on the higher level hunts. Each range of hunts has their own selection of possible drops. I'm not sure if there's a listing or spreadsheet available somewhere which summarizes exactly what each hunt for retainers at a certain level at a certain job may drop.
    All mine brings me back from lv40 exploration is Apkallu Down.. not much "exploring" going on there, he's hanging out at the beach then killing an Apkallu at the last minute to make it look like he was busy lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelTaru View Post
    All mine brings me back from lv40 exploration is Apkallu Down.. not much "exploring" going on there, he's hanging out at the beach then killing an Apkallu at the last minute to make it look like he was busy lol
    loled irl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
    The higher level gear allows for them to be sent out on the higher level hunts. Each range of hunts has their own selection of possible drops. I'm not sure if there's a listing or spreadsheet available somewhere which summarizes exactly what each hunt for retainers at a certain level at a certain job may drop.
    Ah, does that also apply to quick ventures or only the 18h ones? Cause I'm only sending them on quick ventures, maybe that's where the problem lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBones View Post
    Ah, does that also apply to quick ventures or only the 18h ones? Cause I'm only sending them on quick ventures, maybe that's where the problem lies.
    i send them on quick ventures when I am online and a big exploration before I log off for the night
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBones View Post
    Ah, does that also apply to quick ventures or only the 18h ones? Cause I'm only sending them on quick ventures, maybe that's where the problem lies.
    To be fair, higher level gear is supposed to lean - not force, just lean - the random items towards more valuable from Quick Ventures.

    However, Quick Ventures are still really, really random. You can get almost anything in the game - high level unique pieces of gear you won't see, for instance, like Relics or High Allagan - but you can see the furnishing material drop from Turn 9 for instance*. ...Or Malm Kelp.

    * (This is the most valuable thing I've heard of having been brought back by Quick Ventures, and to my knowledge goes for 2 million plus on most servers)

    Higher gear does allow you to do more Hunting/Gathering ventures and the 18h Field Exploratoins, however, and the higher tiers of that provide better results. More importantly they provided consistent results, as they're either fixed items or from extremely small pools of possible items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garlyle View Post
    However, Quick Ventures are still really, really random. You can get almost anything in the game - high level unique pieces of gear you won't see, for instance, like Relics or High Allagan - but you can see the furnishing material drop from Turn 9 for instance*. ...Or Malm Kelp.

    Higher gear does allow you to do more Hunting/Gathering ventures and the 18h Field Exploratoins, however, and the higher tiers of that provide better results. More importantly they provided consistent results, as they're either fixed items or from extremely small pools of possible items.
    HA? really?

    And no, your retainer still can bring you lots of craps even with highest gear equips.
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    you know that they can bring you anything

    meaning you got less than 0.1% to actually get the thing you want
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    you know that they can bring you anything
    Literally. Mine brought me a HQ Umbral Rock a couple of days back. If only he did that when I was actually mining them all those months ago.
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