Dzemeal Darkhold Speed Run Guide

[Cursive]

Here wowtards are happy about racist kung fu panda expansion (i really can't believe this, even if its in the lore, the lore is racist), we have to look forward to actual strategy, if people don't agree, i don't this dungeon is meant for arc,conj,gla, maybe a poor depressed thm when they couldn't get another arc, i think you just have to develop different strategies around having mrds or lncs there, (even though running away from tp attack is lame for lnc). its nice to see someone use most of the classes we have available in a run. How many runs would you say it took you before you settled on "this was the way to do it"?

we've been trying different things...honestly, you could go in with a slightly different setup and have enough time...we are working on a 5 chest run atm...only problem has been a bunch of people missing this weekend. its also already been done unfortunately.

we use the one thm to spam thm dots and debuffs. like i said...any setup with some mages could clear it...just have to know what they are doing and how to avoid tp attacks.

[Cursive]

@ OP, nice setup. What is the piety of your mages?

181

after much discussion we felt this was the best value...doesn't compromise safety too much by taking tons out of vit and allows for a decent mp pool.

[tachikoma]

I wonder how stats affect your dps as mages, do you mind posting stats?

I have a very hard time with stats since I always am crafting for hq, right now i'm working on WVR crafts with high DEX and I need to keep 130'ish DEX. Am i killing my mage ability with such low DEX?

Also what wand does Kaeko use? I was using the Jade crook+2 but your usage of Aegis Boon II makes me want a shield.

[Cursive]

5 chest speed run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfGVL2hUIOY

after making some slight adjustments to the batraal kill we completed a five chest speed run. after some minor testing we found ws>ws>magic br did about the same dmg as spamming banish and scourge II. also, we kept an arc, thm and con to continue dmg on batraal while the three other cons nuked down the second group of skeletons. the plan for the third group of skeletons was to aggro and group them all and have all mages chainspell sleep in hopes that it would stick given enough tries and then focus on killing batraal. this sort of worked as seen in the video.

obviously this was a very sloppy kill, which we think illustrates there is a bit of leeway with your party setup in completing this. also, four archers instead of mainly mages can kill the bosses quicker, but we found it was much slower running through the dungeon and instead went mage heavy. we also had varying levels of success landing dots. sometimes all stick, other times only one or two. we think that two arc and a thm on dots would probably work best for constant dmg on batraal.

thanks to everyone who responsed with any ideas. if anyone wants more info we can write up a more detailed strategy.

[Cursive]

I wonder how stats affect your dps as mages, do you mind posting stats?

I have a very hard time with stats since I always am crafting for hq, right now i'm working on WVR crafts with high DEX and I need to keep 130'ish DEX. Am i killing my mage ability with such low DEX?

Also what wand does Kaeko use? I was using the Jade crook+2 but your usage of Aegis Boon II makes me want a shield.

kaeko is using the gridanian wand. there is really no benefit to using a two handed arm when a wand/brand and shield increase your ability to survive.

as thm i have 181 pie with gear and stat trait switches, 140 vit, 80 mnd. int is at base. seiken valk has high pie as well.

other cons have high vit and mnd only...pie and int at base.

[Seiken]

Hey tachikoma, I'll try to remember our relative stats.

For the DPS mages, they were stacked mostly into MND with some Vitality, no INT whatsoever. For the DoT mages, 181 PIE with the rest split between MND and VIT.

The main reason why the dps mages have such high MND in our run is to Curaga tank the Purgatory Knights. Profundity II with Banish II will do about the same damage regardless of your INT.

I think Kaeko either uses the Gridanian wand or an NQ Walnut wand of Storms (He should really use a wind wand on the ogre to help build TP faster). The reason he uses a shield is to curaga tank more easily and better survivability. Sentinel/Aegis Boon II/Deflection with Spiritbind/Curaga is a guaranteed way to keep hate and stay alive. He used these skills to hold the 2nd and 3rd groups of Purgatory Knights.

I'll ask Kaeko to post his stats when he gets online after work today.

[SilvertearRen]

If a party can complete a speedrun with lancers, pugilists, etc, I will appreciate it if they posted on the forums a guide on how to do such a thing, because all these guides are heavily stacked in one direction or another.

A balanced party, please.

[DoctorMog]

5 chest speed run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfGVL2hUIOY

after making some slight adjustments to the batraal kill we completed a five chest speed run. after some minor testing we found ws>ws>magic br did about the same dmg as spamming banish and scourge II. also, we kept an arc, thm and con to continue dmg on batraal while the three other cons nuked down the second group of skeletons. the plan for the third group of skeletons was to aggro and group them all and have all mages chainspell sleep in hopes that it would stick given enough tries and then focus on killing batraal. this sort of worked as seen in the video.

obviously this was a very sloppy kill, which we think illustrates there is a bit of leeway with your party setup in completing this. also, four archers instead of mainly mages can kill the bosses quicker, but we found it was much slower running through the dungeon and instead went mage heavy. we also had varying levels of success landing dots. sometimes all stick, other times only one or two. we think that two arc and a thm on dots would probably work best for constant dmg on batraal.

thanks to everyone who responsed with any ideas. if anyone wants more info we can write up a more detailed strategy.

Cant sleep undead.

Other than that. good stuff!

[Cursive]

Cant sleep undead.

Other than that. good stuff!

yea, we know...however, if you throw enough sleeps at them they will sleep...hence chainspell sleep. the few times we've tried it we've gotten 2 or 3. don't remember what happens in that video, but i think we got 2 of them.

[Neversleeps]

Cant sleep undead.

Other than that. good stuff!

You can sleep the skeletons, just with an incredibly low land-rate and with a low duration of time. That's why we have 4-5 mages chainspell + sleep the last set of mobs so that we have about 8-10 chances to sleep the mob.

You can't, however, sleep the Ghosts.