Coeurl turning into a ghost town?

[ClaireAbigail]

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Yea, I'm in that linkshell and it's pretty cool that she's doing that. We just need more people actively doing coils. I'm always down to farm second coil. So are a lot of people in our server, the main problem is that there's only a few people taking the initiative to start a farming party/learning party and when people do start it it's only within their small circle of people and honestly I can't blame them knowing how unforgiving some mechanics are and that some people don't have the patience to teach. It's like the server's desire to do end game content is deteriorating and people are settling with sold and gerolt equipments.

[Havenchild]

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Your not far from the truth. Although I can say another truth of whats happening is overall Coeurl doesn't have a great band of skilled players on average. What's happening more then that are people don't want to go through the frustrations of training people, because it takes time for something you could just do with a static you know are capable of doing the content with. You have Kobato, getting people through some endgame which assists the climate of the server, but people don't have the drive to be good at their class, which FCOB forces people to be, both in Heals and DPS.

[Seibah]

The problem is more that Coeurl doesn't really have players at multiple stages of the game in the same way populated servers do. If you're on a populated server that gets lots of new players, there will always be people at different points of progression because the player base renews itself over time. I'm fairly certain Coeurl doesn't really have much of an influx of new players.

If you PF particular content, I've noticed you'll often see the same couple people doing content. The same people making Shiva Farm PFs, or Ramuh clears, etc. Coeurl is lacking in fresh blood and ultimately that won't change unless people who are capable assist players progress through the game, tedious and boring as it may be. I'm sure there are talented players out there who just can't get T5 down or can't even find a party for Mog EX or something. That LS mentioned in this thread sounds like a start, at least. I realize it's not really fun to carry or teach someone content especially with instant wipe mechanics and so on but the server climate isn't going to get better because our population and player base is so stagnant.

People not being good at their class is something in every MMO ever on any server ever. The problem on Coeurl is that the resources don't even really exist for people to become better because our PF is like, the same three guys making shiva farms, fate grinding for NIN parties, and like very occasional clear parties for outdated content that either never fill and are of dubious quality if they do. It's hard to blame people for not getting past T5 when you could sit an entire night and not get a party, then still not win or even get anywhere if you do.

In regards to the lack of second coil farm parties, i think it's just because very few people are even that far. T6 is the only one that ever really shows up in PF and it's success rate is questionable at best. The few T7 and 8 ones I've heard of, by most reports, end up not going very well.

alllsooooo I think another factor is that people kind of caught onto how gear progression works in this game (as in 2.5 will probably make getting i130 pretty ez), and we're on the brink of an expansion that will surely blow up the ilevel to new heights, so it's a bit harder to get the general population motivated to run really difficult, stressful content for rewards that will probably become outdated in the expansion very early on.

[Kiri_Tqnikaze]

Here's my thoughts:
There are plenty of people who have yet to clear SCoB and most primals. The problem isnt not having players like Kobato helping (that ls is really only active when she's on anyways), its having elitist snotbags that won't help form new statics because they're too busy jerking each other.
And then there's the FC issue: All of them pretty much just gossip, craft, and play favorites (helping certain popular players over helping anyone else). God forbid you tell them this cause you'll get kicked out real fast.
The problem is (tl;dr) People need to stop being elitist pricks and actually help.

[MSky]

They might as well merge Couerl into Levi... Seems everyone decided to jump ship to there.

[Mahes]

The issue is not that we don't have skilled players on the server, cause we do. There are still multiple things that prevent us from having more people doing FCoB.

First we have a large influx of new players coming on to our server. Which is cool i'm down to get new people who enjoy playing the game.
Second the endgame players that are still on the server are trying to progress with the new FCoB with there statics and I know several groups who run 4-6 days a week trying to down content.
Third school is still in session for a lot of people who play this game. IRL comes first!
Last people who are putting up these farm parties are wanting to farm to get there better gear. In the past few days while I was on I noticed several learning parties in PF. Its out there it just takes some looking.

But if we really want to try to fix our servers problems what we need to do is we need to have people who have cleared SCoB and other Endgame content to step up and do what my FC (Abel) and Fuse is doing and if you see a learning party and you are bored cause you aren't raiding just jump in and see what you can do to help. I understand trying to teach new people mechanics of fights we learned several months ago is tedious but if you want our server to grow and get better again we need more of the people who are endgame driven to step up and try to help out.

I know for my FC we try to at least once a week take our new people into content they haven't seen before and show them the ropes, and i do feel FCs come before pugs but we generally will ask other people to come help and do so threw PF when we do it. Hell, just last Friday we took two people from our FC who hadn't run T6 and though we didn't beat it or clear it for them they got to see the mechanics and in the 90 mins we were in the run learned how to dodge moves and how to effectively play there class in the turn. So if helping your FC over pugs is a priority then I don't blame you but you can not expect our server to just get better if you are only helping them. You have to branch out and help those who are not in your FC.

Now that being said the new people this goes out to you. I want to help you get geared and learn the endgame stuff but I can tell you from my stand point I is really aggravating to join a learning party and you don't know any of the mechanics. I want to help I really do but I do ask you to do the one thing and watch videos of the fights from youtube even if its just to see the mechanics you have to work with.

If I left out any other FCs who are doing the same thing Fusion Sword and Abels Vengeance is doing I am sorry.

[Eggnook24]

Come to Exodus, plenty of new and legacy players, all at different levels of play. Usually at anytime, at least 15-20 PF going at a time.

Just don't level NIN, they are like 1/3 of all players right now, lol. But even as DPS, DF waits are under 30 minutes.