Scale from one to five

[Arrik]

Between a three and a four.

^ This.

AK pre-nerf had one choke point: The Demon Wall. The final boss was too easy in comparison, and really needed to be a bit stronger. But as others have said, come out with Pharos Sirius difficulty dungeons (which I liked when everyone stayed/I ran with FC members) and it'll just drop off the face of the roulette like Pharos did until the nerf.

That doesn't mean you can't vary where the difficulty is placed to make each dungeon interesting, but they should be overall around a 3.5

EDIT: Kind of related, but I do think any dungeon with the word "Hard" at the end should be pushed up in difficulty a little bit, and at the very least feel more difficult than it's normal version...

[NorthernLadMSP]

Honestly, it depends on what they're planning on putting in the dungeons. If it's crap ilevel gear (20 levels below what most people have equipped) and crappy crafting mats, it should be similar to what we have now.

However, I would love if the new dungeons were actually difficult and actually dropped things that we could use.

[Muzetta]

Pharos pre-nerf for sure. I never did it before the nerf, but from what people have said it seemed to be a very fitting difficulty.

[Aylis]

Somewhere between a 3 and 4 for me ^o^

Though I do wanna add to in cases of more difficult dungeons I feel personally the rewards should deffo match the efforts given. As with the case of Pharos Sirus and please correct me if I'm wrong cos I'm going off memory and its been a while since I did the dungeon. If my memory isn't wonky, for the challenge it gave the same token rewards as the other dungeons and nothing really special or unique to the dungeon (ala housing items) to make the difficulty worth the effort for most parties to do vs the easier dungeons for the same rewards.

That said I did like Pharos Sirus simply because it felt like SE was taking a change to a more random approach to dungeon bosses which I simply LOVE. Siren to me felt like the very first dungeon boss in the game to deviate from old NES boss patterns and I really want to see SE focus on randomness in boss fights instead of patterns to make things interesting.

I know it probably won't ever happen but I can dream.

[Sapphic]

Well, 2.1 showed one thing. That if one of the 3 new dungeons is a bit more challenging than the others, then it will be less used than the other, easier ones. 2.2 showed that if one dungeon takes less time to complete than the others, then it will get used more than the other 2.

So the difficulty and average completion time should be constant amongst the 3 to get balanced player usage out of them. But anything 3 or above difficulty has ended up the same way, reduced in difficulty in some way in later patches. Personally, for me, instead of just jacking up the difficulty, I would prefer to see more uniqueness and different elements in them, rather than the trash to boss, trash to boss, trash to final boss, finish.

[Tauu]

Challenging content that doesn't require static parties and involve constant dodge-or-death mechanics would be nice.

4

[Cluebilly]

The nerf to Pharos is nowhere near as bad as the nerfs they did to AK. To me, that place suffered the real SE mega-nerf

Also 2-4 is fitting I'd think

[Sessurea]

meh why not varying difficulties? 2 dungeons something like tam tara HM, and make the 3rd one a monster, but reward higher amounts of the incoming new tome. I couldn't care less if pugs drop it, I'ts something fun that doesn't require a static. Think ex primal but smaller scale. Something this game desperately needs....

As for dungeon drops becoming meaningful, I doubt that's ever gonna happen unless se change their stance on tomes etc.

[Amused]

meh why not varying difficulties?

Because that only serves to divide the community. I think if they were to narrow it down, people would learn how to cooperate better.

[Warlyx]

i hope they put less trash , soooooo boring killing 15 min of trash just for 3 min boss battle that is more easy than some pulls