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  1. #31
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    synesthetic's Avatar
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    Rihael Eden
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    Everyone makes such a big deal about relic, badgering each other about what stage they're on or how close they are, etc. It makes being a not-relic weapon user feel pretty horrible and discouraged.

    plus I'm scared content might get hard enough that eventually fully progressed relics (especially when relics get stronger and stronger stages to make sure they are still top dog and better than other weapons to not piss off relic builders.) will become mandatory.
    eh, I wouldn't let all of the relic talk intimidate you.
    Some people build their relic to give them more versatility--different gearsets for different situations.
    For some people, relic just gives them something to do.
    For some people, they're hardcore and want to bring out that extra 2% from their character, to be the very best, like no one ever was.
    And then some people feel that if it's potentially the best gear, then it's the only option worth considering.

    Most of the time, when I hear people comparing their progress with each other, it's just friendly competition or a vague way to see if they're making good progress. I doubt they're trying to rub it in your face.

    If anyone actually talks down to you for not having an up-to-date relic, then they're full of themselves. Not everyone has the time for it, not everyone finds it fun or even tolerable, and having one doesn't automatically make you the most powerful being on the planet. Knowing fights and how to play your class well are more important.

    If Yoshida holds true to what he's been saying, then there will never be only one path to progress in the game. Relics will always be special in their own way, and weapons from endgame raids like coil will be special in their way, but there's always been at least one alternative. A few times, he's said that he wants the game to be like an amusement park, where there are many things you can choose to do. Options for the hardcore, for the casuals, for the people with a lot of time, and the people who don't. And he doesn't want the game to evolve in such a way that newer and older players will have this unbreachable gap separating them, so gradually harder content gets eased as new stuff comes out.
    If a route is not fun or not enjoyable to you in some way, then don't do it. It defeats the purpose of the game then and you have the choice to spend your time on something else.
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  2. #32
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    ....Advice on what I should do?
    If I were in your situation, I would give survivability higher piority, use SOL on LEFT side gear, then RIGHT side, just leave the UAT for ALT job to use,
    then starting from now, every ST just NEED sand to upgrade LEFT side, go hunting get oil for RIGHT side.

    For the long term reason is remember that in the process to obatin Animus/Novus/Nexus, you need to have Thyrus equipped,
    therefore I think overall Yagrush will help you for shorter time than others gears.
    From the view point to saving tomes, I would try to save this 1300SOL+sand first because apparently Thyrus is your main relic. ^^;

    Short version:
    Since you cannot equip Yagrush while farming ATMA, therefore upgrade other gears first should be more beneficial.
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    Last edited by Nicobo; 10-09-2014 at 04:03 PM. Reason: typo

  3. #33
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    Granis Erutoto
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 100
    I put my foot down and made a decision and just decided to spend the solderity on other gear. (that i70 ring needed to go bad, plus I picked up some new pants and used a sands of time on them) the only problem now is I'm shancled to the relic grind or hope to god I can get a weapon off Leviathan EX or something assuming I can learn and get that fight down to a level where I can farm it instead of use my UAT. Plus if my FC downs Twin we can maybe start farming it and I can go for the Allagan weapon maybe until I get relic progressed.
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  4. #34
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    Kisa Valkyrie
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Honestly that's what I did- I didn't quite get a Levi weapon before my Animus but I have two job I consider primary (WHM and BLM) but my WHM is now Animus level. I didn't rush, I didn't grind till my face turned blue and I used my tomes on gear. I healed just fine with my Zenith honestly.
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  5. #35
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Phoenix
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    Marauder Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    I put my foot down and made a decision and just decided to spend the solderity on other gear. (that i70 ring needed to go bad, plus I picked up some new pants and used a sands of time on them) the only problem now is I'm shancled to the relic grind or hope to god I can get a weapon off Leviathan EX or something assuming I can learn and get that fight down to a level where I can farm it instead of use my UAT. Plus if my FC downs Twin we can maybe start farming it and I can go for the Allagan weapon maybe until I get relic progressed.
    If you can't be bothered with the relic, the Allagan cane (from T5) will get you quite far. The Yagrush does make healing comfortably, however. Then again, using a slightly underpowered weapon does forge and mold you into a good healer (assuming you can pull off with it)
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  6. #36
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    Zeniba Zhiya
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I did choose the Yagrush. For me, the relic weapons are just a big waste of time. Yagrush is more then enough to beat every content in this game so far without any problems. As far as i know, Square will add new tomestones with patch 2.4. So they will remove the mytholgy-stones from the game, soldiery-stones will be the next mythology-stones. That means you can get the 1300 stones very fast.

    Just think about it. Upgrading your relic weapon to nexus will take 70-80 boring hours of grind (idk, correct me if i am wrong). Then you have a slightly better weapon compared to yagrush. And then, you can get the next ilvl 120+ non-relic weapon some months after they did release patch 2.4 for almost the same conditions as for yagrush.

    So in my opinion, always go for the best non-relic (not talking about ha) weapon in the game, because its just not worth it to grind such a ridiculous amount of fates and whatever just to have a slightly better weapon for some months.
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  7. #37
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    If you're only currently at the Zenith stage I'd just get Yagrush at this point. Maybe wait for 2.4 to see if they nerf the further relic stages since it's a lot of effort and potentially gil if you want one with the best off stats. There will do doubt be quicker alternatives coming soon but you might have to wait until closer to 2.5 unless you do 3rd coil.
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  8. #38
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    Granis Erutoto
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 100
    I just didn't have the tomes to spare for Yagrush so I'm progressing my relic just as something I can do while buying my armor/accesory upgrades. though I do plan on hopefully doing twin with my FC, and spamming EX primals for alternative weapons though.
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  9. #39
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Just remember that upgradng your weapon will increase you cures by more than upgrading your entire left side armour. Ideally it should be the first thing you upgrade if you have the means to do so.
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  10. #40
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    Granis Erutoto
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    Just remember that upgradng your weapon will increase you cures by more than upgrading your entire left side armour. Ideally it should be the first thing you upgrade if you have the means to do so.
    I know that, but I just felt dirty with that i70 ring still equipped, I had to rectify it and turn 4 refused to drop it's ring. I figured since I was short tomes for the weapon after buying the ring, I might as well bay the pants.
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