Whats the point in Big Fishing?

[Nasibihc]

To be honest, Big Fishing is kind of useless. (Skip to bottom for kind of TLDR; )

Why?

Let's start what you actually need to be able to catch all the big fish (as in have over 380 gathering in fishing: Materia infused Gear +foragers fishing rod & foragers hat, +24 from food and +10 from FC buff or instead of FC buff have the halcyon rod supra):

1. You need to have gear for it and getting those gear may cost you a few mil if you don't want to farm all the materia for them and craft the gear yourself.

2. After you are done with having the max possible fishing with gear you can obtain. You need to spend a ton of time catching HQ silver sovereigns to get the second best fishing rod.

3. Spend a bit more time to catch more HQ silver sovereign to obtain the Foragers Hat.

4. Phew! That's for the gear, now you must obtain HQ Spinach quiches (4-10k each on the AH unless of course you want to cook them yourself) to obtain that +24 gathering to toss yourself up to 383 fishing and you have the max amount that's supposedly needed at the moment congratulations!

Wait what.. whats next? oh? catching the actual fish? Let's take a look on that.

5. All the fish have their unique weather conditions to spawn so you need to wait for the correct time & correct weather to catch your fish.

6. Well yay now it's the correct time, you go and fish with your hq spinach quiche that you have got just for this with the FC buff unless you are fortunate enough to obtain the halcyon rod supra.

7. You fish.

8. You fish some more.

9. and some more..

10. Now you could be doing this for a week if not more before you actually obtain your fish if you're unlucky. Even with max fishing the fish can still get away, it's not 100%.

11. Yeah you got your big fish that you wanted to get!

12. Wait what do I do with the big fish now that I got it? Oh yeah. You also need CUL Desynth high enough to actually be able to pop your fish into bits.

13. Go back to step 1 and take in on cul desynth. Desynth all the caught fish you can possibly obtain skill up with.

14. So now you have both Fishing gathering and cul desynth and let's blow up that fish for some swimsuits!

*Puff*

Either with 60-80 something % desynth chance it will blow up without you obtaining anything or then you will succeed, get a bit of skill up and obtain nothing, since obtaining the desired items from the fish only have something of a 7-10% chance of happening. If you have bad luck, begin again and do this as many times as you need to get the item off the fish.

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Now what's with the terribly long explanation with the steps and everything? The point is, obtaining these items takes a lot of time and even obtaining one of them takes a lot of luck. Even if you could get 500k to a million gil or more off each item you actually manage to obtain, I've begun to wonder that it's not actually worth it, because..

a) These items almost never sell and the competition of getting these sold at the auction house is FIERCE. Put your item on sale, after a minute you've already been undercut twice.

b) If they'd be worth any less, they'd not be worth trying for as there are many other ways that you can make a decent amount of gil instead of hitting it big once.

c) The only people that actually can afford to buy these are the 1% people that are fanatic enough to actually obtain vanity gear for their characters and have enough gil. The other type is the people who buy gil and well can spend it to whatever things they want.

d) If these items were any easier to get, the market would be flooding with them and the price would be so low that it'd not be worth it to actually progress this far to get the rewards off big fishing.

Now this needs a change.

There should actually be other uses for the big fish than this. Like exquisite foods that can only be made with these fish for huge stat+ benefits that'd make a decent gil when sold or then just sell the fish itself if you dont fancy creating the dishes. Other option would be an aquarium system where you can put the fish in that you catch even in miniature size and then have it on your house for display or "hang the big fish you caught up as a decoration on your wall"

Decoration like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m80jt6bm6ZA

This isn't a rant, it's my personal opinion on the problems with this system that I wanted to leave up for discussion.

Any thoughts or suggestions of making this a better system?

[SarcasmMisser]

How are you getting 383 gathering with only a i70 rod? That's my stats with a Halcyon Rod Supra is there a FC buff there you failed to mention? Also it easily pays for itself if you're not a sucker for gambling and sell the fish rather than desynth them, or you could just have fun getting achievements.

[Shneibel]

Housing furniture sound like a good use to them, but there are to many big fish and the house is not big enough & aquarium will not fit them !

[Nasibihc]

How are you getting 383 gathering with only a i70 rod? That's my stats with a Halcyon Rod Supra is there a FC buff there you failed to mention? Also it easily pays for itself if you're not a sucker for gambling and sell the fish rather than desynth them, or you could just have fun getting achievements.

i70 rings give off +5 gathering and +5 perception. The i55 rings only give out +4 each. Fishing doesn't need GP, so it doesn't matter what the ring stats are that you use. Check my char on lodestone for the gear set up I have. And no, you don't need to obtain the halcyon rod supra to obtain 383 gathering in fishing and of course you need the FC buff, I forgot to mention that! I'll add it thanks.

[Fornix]

It'd be nice if in a future patch they'd come with Big Food to go along with the Big Fish. Rather than personal food you'd be able to make a food platter which you could put down in the FC house. Stays "fresh" for 24 hours and people can use it to obtain a food buff. Buff wise they shouldn't outdo personal foods, but rather be around -1 attribute point lower. Not to wreck the consumable market for during raids. But for during dungeons, DF primals, etc it could be a nice way to get some more food buffs going.

[Limecat]

So you can cut them open and rummage around in their insides to see if anything interesting falls out of the offal.

[SarcasmMisser]

i70 rings give off +5 gathering and +5 perception. The i55 rings only give out +4 each. Fishing doesn't need GP, so it doesn't matter what the ring stats are that you use. Check my char on lodestone for the gear set up I have. And no, you don't need to obtain the halcyon rod supra to obtain 383 gathering in fishing

Dude I have a supra rod why wouldn't I know something that basic, I have full melds with i70 astral rings.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NZVZ

It is 383. You get 373 with i70 rod and can get 383 with FC buff. You're wrong.

[Nasibihc]

Dude I have a supra rod why wouldn't I know something that basic, I have full melds with i70 astral rings.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NZVZ

It is 383. You get 373 with i70 rod and can get 383 with FC buff. You're wrong.

Yeah I forgot to mention the FC buff, I edited my reply but you got me first sorry.

[TimGoodacre]

Housing furniture sound like a good use to them, but there are to many big fish and the house is not big enough & aquarium will not fit them !

Wall-panel aquarium! Imagine that cool room having a wall that is a giant fish tank... And you could have multiple fish tank walls along a particularly long wall... Oh yes. Will never happen, but we can dream.

[BobbinT]

The only thing I need to solve this problem is an Aquarium.