Because apparently, counting in increments of two is too damn hard...

[Tiggy]

2- There is NO WRITTEN OR OFFICIAL rule whatsoever that says the tank has to tell you when to pick up the orbs. So if you don't ask him to be in charge of that at the beginning, don't blame the tank for YOUR slacking off.

Every single group I've ever tanked for expected me to vocalize this information over voice chat or to have macro's instead. Don't complain because you weren't doing something that most groups expect from a tank. It doesn't have to be written or official for it to still be your job in this fight. Sure, they should know it's every other phase, but things happen and sometimes theres and overcharge or something goes wrong and you have to wing it. This is where your communication is extremely important and definitely helps save wipes.

Stop acting like a victim. You weren't helping anymore than the DPS were or the bad team leader was for failing to properly identify the problem. You were all wrong. A bad group is a bad group.

[Evaddaragon]

Stop acting like a victim. You weren't helping anymore than the DPS were or the bad team leader was for failing to properly identify the problem. You were all wrong. A bad group is a bad group.

Woah, woah, woah. I'm not "acting" or anything. But let's say I bite and follow your logic for a second... I we were ALL wrong, then I don't have the to be THE ONE kicked. A party disband should have been the end result.

Disagreeing with me is one thing. Giving me intentions is another.

And that's funny that you say every single group you've tanked expected you to do it, therefore I'm at fault, because most groups I'VE been in DIDN't expect me to. Funny how that works huh.

This story reminds me a lot of the debate I've heard last year over the marking of targets and about who's responsible to do it, actually, but I digress.

[Tiggy]

Woah, woah, woah. I'm not "acting" or anything. But let's say I bite and follow your logic for a second... I we were ALL wrong, then I don't have the to be THE ONE kicked. A party disband should have been the end result.

Disagreeing with me is one thing. Giving me intentions is another.

And that's funny that you say every single group you've tanked expected you to do it, therefore I'm at fault, because most groups I'VE been in DIDN't expect me to. Funny how that works huh.

This story reminds me a lot of the debate I've heard last year over the marking of targets and about who's responsible to do it, actually, but I digress.

I'm not saying you being the one who was kicked was right. I said everyone was wrong. That includes the party leader who failed to A) discuss a common strat so that everyone was on the same page and B) correctly identify problems and fix them and C) maintain the group with a conversation to fix the problems.

However that doesn't make you right. You say most groups don't expect you too call out. So that tells me you are saying you have been in groups that did have you call out so you knew it was something that is commonly required of the tanks. I would be shocked if you told me that in those battles you helped call out on that there wasn't a palpable improvement in tunnel visioning and rhythm of the fight.

Even if you aren't asked you should know that it helps and embrace that as part of your standard approach to this fight. I've seen the effect of call outs in many fights over the last year. Titan extreme landslides/plumes, Levi plumes/boat side, T5 twisters, etc. In every situation call outs improve the cohesion of the group and help cut through tunnel vision. Just because you weren't asked to do so doesn't change the fact that you should have been doing it and it would definitely have helped the fight.

Take some personal responsibility. You knew some groups ask for this and you still didn't do it. Do you have to be explicitly asked to do cool downs for big hits or do you do it automatically because it's your job? On some fights call outs ARE your job and you shouldn't need to be explicitly asked to do it. This is one of them. Embrace it. Instead you come to the forums acting like a victim when there was blatantly something you could have been doing to improve the situation. The party leader was wrong to act that way and the other tank should have been assisting you, but he was right. You should have been calling them out.