Pet Placement....

[Minorinz]

It is really annoying that I have to re-place my pet after every push back mechanic instead of having it stuck at the spot or having it go back automatically to where i placed it. Can we get a fix on this?
eg. ifrit ex push back, titan's landslide, T6 sucking mechanic on devour, T9 chariot and heavens fall...
I do re-place them quite often and it's getting irritating that when i fail to notice, i'm either losing pet heals or dps on those few secs that i have move them in..

What do you guys think?

[Tranquil]

Well, I am somewhat of a masochist so I like the fact I have to pay more attention. It never becomes a problem for me. If you want a "fix" for this, have your pet on Heel. Not something I would recommend seriously, though. :P

That being said, I guess I wouldn't mind it if pets gravitated towards the place where they were initially Placed, post-knockback impact. I always just pay attention to not make this a problem. Similar to how you keep tabs on everything else as a SCH, it just comes with the territory.

[Lovemonster]

Try to control the use of embrace so that it is always used (macro or manual). Either way your pet will continue to embrace regardless of position as they will move to embrace if the place command was used. You will probably position your pet before you use whispering dawn, fey glow or fey light. In situations where your pet can also divide damage, you'll know when they happen so once again you will use place. For heavens' fall your pet position does not really matter as long as it is not in the centre since you can use rouse to block paralyse.

It's just practice really. Controlling the pet is fun to me and feels somewhat like controlling two characters and having two gcds. You can kinda judge how good a scholar is by the way they control their pet. You have the worst kind of scholar who has Eos on sic and uses all her buffs at the start of a pull. Then scholars who realise that they have another pet and use Selene since it's probably more effective than an auto-pilot Eos. Following that scholars who discover obey, macros, pet combos, positioning, maximising gcds by using pet commands while casting, and finally embrace control.

I wouldn't think of managing your pet annoying but an opportunity to become the best scholar you can be.

[giantslayer]

When Garuda EX places that big tornado in the middle of the field, it does knockback. If Eos tries to return, she is committing suicide.

In general, though, I agree it would be nice for other fights.

[Minorinz]

I think I understand where you guys are coming from but regardless of being an amazing scholar or not placing pets for at least most of the fight will be better for the sch/smn just for the fact that the pet will execute the command whenever given and I do use macros for embrace! Having the pet on follow will always delay the cast which sometimes it saves players (dps/tanks) from being dead. If we're talking about being a good scholar then it shouldn't be hard for a good scholar to pick a good position for the fairy to be statically healing from or for it to equally distribute buffs, this way i can be in 2 places at once as a scholar to heal the entire party while not being much mobile, especially solo heals! I tried Titan ex 4-man for the hell of it and whenever the fairy got landslided it would just be isolated while i'm trapped in a goal and the tank is close to dying with it -the fairy- not doing a single cast because its too far!! Also the time I would invest moving my pet in, i would rather dps or heal due to me being a controller user and having to switch hotbars/crossbars, believe me it makes a lot of difference that i've seen it cause wipes on challenging content

If most of you enjoy placing a pet consistently they should make it an option to stick a fairy/garuda/ifrit during a fight to max heals/dps at least..

[Kaisha]

When Garuda EX places that big tornado in the middle of the field, it does knockback. If Eos tries to return, she is committing suicide.

Outside from the weird oddity that Garuda EX tornados do not affect pets at all, while HM version does.

Outside of Ifrit it's hardly an annoyance though hitting place once a minute.

[giantslayer]

Outside from the weird oddity that Garuda EX tornados do not affect pets at all, while HM version does.

Outside of Ifrit it's hardly an annoyance though hitting place once a minute.

Whoops. To be honest, after doing HM, I decided place was a bad idea for Garuda in general. I remember being dead very shortly after getting hit by the one in EX and didn't pay attention to my faerie. I just assumed it affected her as the HM stuff did. Garuda also has one where she does a whirlwind on the outside that knocks you inward. I think that affects the faerie, but if you are placing her, you probably want the center so that wouldn't be an issue.

[RoseM]

I main in scholar, and I find the knockback mechanic really annoying for pets too. Generally I use Heel on 95% of the contents, the rare exceptions are:
Levi ex, due to the annoying debuff on OT
T5, for fireball soaking, and place them out of the pit to avoid making them walk into the wall during divebombs (Yes they are silly enough to do that)
T9, to absorb the beam dmg

1. While placing pets might sounds like a fancy trick it does take away a large amount of healers' awareness and makes them worse healers.
2. Heel doesnt really reduce pets' healing efficiency in those butt clenching moments, cuz they will still prioritize healing over movement.
3. Some knockback mechanic will push pets into somewhere infront of the boss and inside their cone attack range, which usually means an instant death. Your pet is always safer when hes following you.

[Tranquil]

1. While placing pets might sounds like a fancy trick it does take away a large amount of healers' awareness and makes them worse healers.

How so? Sure, if someone forgets to re-Place their pet for optimal buff ranges or just derps with it in general - I would agree, but I would actually argue the exact opposite: having your pet on Heel is an easy way out of any of the re-Placing and minmaxing that a competent Place-user would have to do. If one is unable to include minding their pet and its placement in their "awareness", then that means that person doesn't really have good awareness levels to begin with.

2. Heel doesnt really reduce pets' healing efficiency in those butt clenching moments, cuz they will still prioritize healing over movement.

Heel reduces a ton of your healing efficiency. A pet will prioritize healing over moving in situations where someone has already dipped, but the fairy-AI is a lot less receptive when using Heel, when compared to Place. This applies for all commands. Also, if you move around, you have a harder time using manual Embrace-spam and having your pet minmax its HPS, as your pet will also move around with you. That constant Embrace-spamming is more important for keeping up a good flow in terms of cruise-controlling and off-DPSing than having it heal over movement when the damage has already been done (to sub-80% HP to trigger auto-Embrace).

3. Some knockback mechanic will push pets into somewhere infront of the boss and inside their cone attack range, which usually means an instant death. Your pet is always safer when hes following you.

Sure it is safer with you, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't analyze the terrain each time and put it at the optimal spot. Misplacing your pet in Titan EX or T8 is pretty much the only place I can think of where this might happen. Even then, infrequently and with bad positioning of it.

[giantslayer]

2. Heel doesnt really reduce pets' healing efficiency in those butt clenching moments, cuz they will still prioritize healing over movement.

Yes and no. I have tested this extensively and here are my findings:
1. If Eos is already casting, she will finish before moving.
2. If you give her a command while she is moving, she will stop to cast.
3. If none of those conditions apply, she will return to your side prior to resuming auto-casting.