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  1. #21
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    Bixby's Avatar
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    Ampersand Kai
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by No2631 View Post
    Neither should be blatantly weaker or stronger than the other, but in specific instances the Nexus trumps the High Allagan, where this isn't the case everywhere. Those're discrepancies, and I'm curious whether these are by design, or whether they are an oversight.
    I'd say it's probably somewhere in between, but leaning more toward oversight. My guess would be that they spent just enough time to make sure things aren't horribly off-balance between the two, and they're comfortable leaving it where it is for a few patches.

    It's obviously not a huge priority for them to make sure Allagan/High Allagan/whatever top tier raid gear in general is absolutely, unquestionably the best, or BiS lists wouldn't include a mix of gear from other content.
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    Lollie Ondoreil
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Det is weigted at about 30% lower when factoring ilvl caps compair to say crit. Relic treats all stat caps like the are primarys since you may have people applying materia in any order. It has everyone apply a combination of 75 at that phase in development to keep it fair across all jobs as well.

    The other thing to consider is are the HA weapons even stat capped for their ilvl or ever intended to be? Compairing the HA weapons agaist each other they dont even match up to having equal comparative state values. The answer may be HA were intended to be balanced not necesarily fair, and relic fair but not necesarily balanced.
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    Monkey Nutz
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I'm not sure why nobody has noticed this, but it's most likely that SE couldn't be bothered to account for the weighting since that would either cause some determination (or piety) materia that you used to have no effect, or allow someone using determination and/or piety to collect fewer pieces of alexandrite. I imagine they noticed the problem and felt the best course of action would be to allow the weapon to be slightly better since it makes almost no discernible difference.
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nutz View Post
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    Actually I think they didn't bother with calculated weights simply due to the fact that the relic is customized and, if they ever decided to nerf/buff a stat, it would create a balancing nightmare on weapons they have no control over. If they nerfed determination at some point in the near future, they can just create weapons to reflect this change. They can not alter relic weapons after they have been customized since it would invalidate the time/gil the player spent on that stat.
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