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    Firon Veleth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Okay, gotcha.

    I dunno Neptune, that's not the impression I'm getting from this translation. Sounds to me like SE's plan is to give melees a damage buff, and possibly a buff to their self-healing abilities.

    Even if that's the case, I'm kind of on the fence about that. Yeah, melees need some kind of damage buff to help them compete a little more with archers, but I have some concerns.

    If abilities like second wind are enhanced, that lowers the market rating for Conjurers. I thought the whole intention was to make Conjurers the main healer class.

    Second, one of the reasons I chose Pugilist was because it appeared to me that its purpose was to be an offensive tank, absorbing damage through speed and evasion, and maintaining hate through dealing damage. This would be opposed by the Gladiator, a defensive tank, using enmity generating abilities and absorbing damage through vitality and shield blocking.

    A friend of mine chose MRD, because MRD had a standard TP-generating attack that could hit multiple enemies. Now that attack is on a 30 second cooldown (or something like that, I haven't played MRD) and MRD's auto-attack hits only one enemy.

    So me choosing PGL to be an offensive tank, and my friend choosing MRD to be a crowd control melee attacker, are now just regular old DD's, and outshined in that department by ARCs.

    I'm not saying ARC shouldn't be the most powerful physical attacker, but ARC is so far ahead of other DD classes it isn't even worth it for your average player to bother with anything but ARC.
    actually PUG can still tank just fine for me, if anything it is much more easy now.
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    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    actually PUG can still tank just fine for me, if anything it is much more easy now.
    Absolutely true, but ask yourself this: If you had to choose between a PGL and GLA to tank the darkhold, what would you choose? If you had both PGL and GLA geared and rank 50 and were asked to tank, which class would you choose?

    Even MRD can tank just fine if you know what you're doing, but nothing can tank like a GLA. If it's SE's intention to make GLA the only dedicated tank class, that's fine. But what makes MRD, PGL, and LNC unique from each other besides the weapon, and an ability or two? Before it was kinda like this:

    GLA: defensive tank
    PGL: offensive tank
    MRD: crowd control melee
    LNC: support melee
    ARC: ranged damage
    THM: arcane magic
    CON: elemental magic

    Looks to me like Yoshi-P's "class uniqueness" was already in the game. Now this is the direction it appears to be heading to me:

    GLA: tank
    CON: healer/support
    THM: nuke/debuff/DoT
    ARC: ranged attack
    MRD: melee
    PGL: melee
    LNC: melee

    Yes, it isn't this cut and dry yet, but as I said, it looks like this is the direction we're headed in.
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