Massive fail by Matsui - telling melee range to suck it up for not getting invites

[Eekiki]

I'm not entirely sure what your point is because of your use of the term "melee range". What's that mean?

[Seirra_Lanzce]

well if challenge is what you want, why not instead of reducing the darn AOE attack, let it be, just adjust our melee damage xD

[Visch]

Oh no people get sidelined! Let's all cry!

Did you even play 11 OP? Wtf.

[Etienn]

Oh no people get sidelined! Let's all cry!

Did you even play 11 OP? Wtf.

Most people did, BUT AND ONLY BUT!! there are only 5 classes, one of which is ranged attack oriented, the other's have attacks yes with chakram and throwing swords, but what good is that?

again there is five classes man...

[Firon]

To me no matter how they make fights certain jobs will always get left out this happens in a lot of mmo's

[Neptune]

To me no matter how they make fights certain jobs will always get left out this happens in a lot of mmo's

It's like an unintended consequence. The leaders should strive to minimize it, and definitely should do something about extreme cases of it after it's happened.

[Firon]

It's like an unintended consequence. The leaders should strive to minimize it, and definitely should do something about extreme cases of it after it's happened.

So what should they do punish ranged jobs for doing their jobs? I really don't see this being a problem when people are beating this w/o all arc teams. Meowwowie had shown us a great vid of them slaying the ogre. it just feels like you are saying they should lower mp's cost and let melee stay in and just get hit and so mages can spam cure's.

[Zkieve]

To me no matter how they make fights certain jobs will always get left out this happens in a lot of mmo's

This dude speaks the truth, is inevitable.

[Rydin]

Overpowered, underpowered, its all a matter of the vision the developers have for the game, for classes/jobs and for the battle system

You can look at trends though. For instance... offline console final fantasy games always make ranged attacks weaker than close range melee weapons. the people in the back row would do less damage but are in a safer spot and in turn, get hit for less... The strongest things in those games were always some metal melee weapons and magic spells

For their online counterparts, SE decided to change up the system, which isn't always a bad thing... and give ranged attackers damage that is on par with and sometimes surpasses the melee DPS, while still being able to remain at a safe distance from the MOBs annoying AOE attacks...

Is that overpowered? I don't know....
I think they've made it easier to use this ranged strategy

But...

You could also try stunning, paralyzing interrupting the MOB and drain/lower their TP making it possible for close range MOBs to get in close without fear of being destroyed.

Another thing to keep in mind, right now although Archers are in high demand.... A party of Archers that have only Archer leveled wont be as useful. Battle regimen hinge on having weaponskills from multiple classes. So even if its an archer in the party... He will be most useful if he can throw Doomspike II or Victimize II or something like that into the regimen

I guess what I am trying to say is, I can see both sides of it...
It really does bother me that someone who has just pugilist to 50, for instance, is detered from entering

[Zkieve]

Overpowered, underpowered, its all a matter of the vision the developers have for the game, for classes/jobs and for the battle system

I think is not the devs who make this or that class over/underpowered.Is the players.

Anyone remember what was NIN intended purpose in 11 and how it ended up?
Thats it right there.